Trump bribed by China and he accepted? Did Trump do unconstitutional act?

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  1. PracticalMac macrumors 68030

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    (I did not see posted/discussed here, pardon if missed)
    Trump bribed by China and he accepted? Did Trump do unconstitutional act?

    After years of trying to get his name Trump trademarked in China, China’s Trademark Office published the provisional approvals on 27 February and another batch on March 6. If there is no objection, in 90 days it is Trumps.

    Trademarks are worth tens of millions $.

    FOX News reported Feb 14:
    The Guardian (UK paper) reports:
    NPR adds:
    The issue is Emoluments Clause of the Constitution, which bars elected leaders from taking anything of value from foreign countries, unless approved by Congress.


    Note that on Feb 9 Trump agreed to the One China policy after Trump spend his entire campaign bashing China and actually talking to Taiwan president (NY Times).
    The timing, just 5 days after Trump acknowledge support for 1China,...
    Well, you can make your own conclusions.
     
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    You think Trump uses toilet paper with the constitution printed on it?
     
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    I don't think he bribed them. I do think the Chinese understand how to butter up a narcissistic idiot.....
     
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    Printed toilet paper is for peasants. His derriere deserves only the finest: he uses the original.

    He'll say it's okay, as his company is now run by his kin, not himself.
     
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    Apparently, only if it's made in China.
     
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    I don't see it. Trump's been annoying the Chinese for months now, complaining endlessly about the South China Sea thing and stepping all over the subject of Taiwan. It would have been Trump who needed to make a step in the other direction, not China; and given that Trump's one and only "quality" is his ability to make deals, I would suspect that he tried to do some dealmaking somewhere. But yeah, this is just my assumption...
     
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    The Chinese government is rational and competent. Anyone looking at China understands it's surrounded by 400 military bases (pacific rim) all capable of striking China with every type of weapon we have. They're not going to provoke a fight (only posture against invasion, wisely), they will do the smart thing and try to get on this idiot's good side, because being rational and competent they understand that normal diplomacy won't matter to an emotion driven fool. China will take its lumps to prevent a military conflict, they have no other choice, and they are rational.
     
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    Hmm. I'm still not totally sure about that. China is just coming off several decades of having the hottest economy in the world. They've now got both the cash and the technical expertise to field a fully modern military force. They're doing the hard work needed to create alliances in their region (made much easier by us now that we've scuttled the TPP). They do have plenty of nukes of their own, as well. And they've got the long view on the expansion of their power; the SCS thing did not just start yesterday, and they're patiently wearing down Taiwan to make it their own.

    I don't see China as needing to take any lumps to prevent a military conflict. They could easily hold their own in any fighting along their own border, and they know this. I still think that, if anything, they're willing to use carrots to persuade their opponents to act in the manner they want; and giving Trump a trademark on his name seems a trivial carrot to give away for something they really want...
     
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    I STRONGLY suggest you look into John Pilger's documentary "The Coming War on China".

    China has made it clear for decades, literally decades, that they want the ability to expand economically, not expand their nation's borders. Their forays into the South China sea are a direct response to our saber rattling and continued building of bases and weapons systems supposedly pointed at North Korea (hint, they're pointed at China as even Robert Kagan stated in a hearing to the Senate Armed Services committee on Dec. 6th).

    Basically, much of the world's "militarizing" is a direct response to ours. It's really that simple.
     
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    If he does, it is the same toilet paper that Obama used.
     
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    No different than the idiot before him :D
     
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    Can't acknowledge you've been duped without deflecting?
     
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    Not even comparable.
     
  14. webbuzz macrumors 65816

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    What makes you think I was duped? I never said I was a Trump fan.
     
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    And Obama has what to do with this thread?
     
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    The Constitution and toilet paper.
     
  17. jpietrzak8 macrumors 65816

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    So yeah, you're deflecting.
     
  18. WarHeadz macrumors 6502a

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    As always.
     
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    The constant gnashing of teeth is good entertainment.
     
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    Come on now - we all know that Trump uses the truth for toilet paper
     
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    And in other news, Trump announces a new golf course on an exclusive South China Sea low-tide land feature, saying we've been misinterpreting the PRC's intentions all along.
     
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    ICYMI: The businesses include massage spas and escort services.
    (noted in the Guardian link in the opening post)

    So can we add human trafficking to this discussion?
     
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    No way in hell that trump would be able to sign I definite detention w/o trial into law. So you are correct to a degree . Obama also deported more than even bush and not a Perp from liberals.
     
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    It is about protecting the brand.

    Last year, we explored a surprising international business effort called “Trump Escorts.” Based at trumpescorts.com but offering services in a number of countries, Trump Escorts used the Trump lettermark for its logo and listed its address as 180 Riverside in New York City, the location of a building called Trump Place. On the day after Donald Trump announced his bid for the presidency, Trump Escorts sent out a news release promoting its revamped website.

    Alan Garten, chief legal officer for the Trump Organization, told The Washington Post in a statement at the time that the Trump Organization had sent a cease-and-desist to Trump Escorts, forcing the company to change its name to “Mystique Companions.”

    “[W]e zealously protect Mr. Trump’s valuable name, brand and trademarks,” Garten said at the time. “Unfortunately, as the brand has grown in popularity around the world, there are more and more people who have tried to trade off his name.”

    That’s the factor at play with the Chinese trademark for Trump Escorts. As The Washington Post’s China bureau chief, Simon Denyer, noted in his analysis of the trademark applications, “Chinese trademark law grants priority to whoever files an application first, so lawyers often advise clients with wide-ranging business interests to file broad, defensive trademark applications against a range of products to prevent other people jumping in — a practice known as ‘trademark squatting,’ common in China.” Link
     
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    Of course he would have, don't be naive...
     

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