Trump BSed His Way Onto the Forbes 400 List

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  1. ChrisWB macrumors 6502

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    The Daily Show has a nice summary of the latest story about Trump's lies regarding his net worth.

    In short, he lied about his wealth in order to get on the Forbes 400 list. He had real estate holdings worth roughly 5 million, but claimed that he owned at least $100 million in personal assets.

    He also invented a fake identity called John Barron. Under the guise of John Barron, Trump pretended to be a Trump Organization spokesperson who told outlandish lies about Trump's personal wealth.

    In the early 1990s, Trump was broke. He had lost all of the money that he had inherited through poor business deals.

    I've shared before that Trump had at least 900 million in personal debt in the mid 2000s, and the Trump Organization took on billions of dollars of additional debt since. The Financial Times covered this (the article is behind a paywall). According to the NYT, Trump currently owes at least $650 million in personal debt, and his organization owes at least $2 billion in debt.

    PS: The title of this thread was taken from the Daily Show video.
     
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    It ultimately changes nothing. It reveals that he's a successful scam artist with a long history of lying about his success.
     
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    So is about 70% of congress.
     
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    As I noted earlier today in the pee tape thread, Trump has been proven to be a lying, sexually abusing, corrupt con artist, but his supporters don’t care.
     
  6. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    I find it kind of creepy that he used this name "Barron" for his youngest son.
     
  7. Zenithal macrumors 604

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    His support has dwindled. There will always be a core group of voters who hold glowing love for the POTUS they vote in.
     
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    All the voters that are going to destroy the GOP in November for a start.
     
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    Unfortunately I think there's also a core group at this point who mostly hold glowing love for the conservative judiciary spin this POTUS and a like-minded McConnell have in mind and are busily implementing.

    That's probably the only point of tangency between Trump and McC, but it's hard to figure out who that electorate is that's still backing Trump as essential for this task. It's not just evangelicals; some of them are dismayed now by Trump's antics. A lot of the glowing love is from people who are having to try really hard not to know better in continuing to support Trump. I can't call it short term thinking because their idea is to pack the courts with young conservative judges, i.e, extend conservative legal opinion of law for a long, long time no matter who sits in Congress. (They're not the only party tries to do that, of course). But it's shortsighted thinking to take the risk they're taking with this erratic version of a US president just to keep getting the judicial picks they favor. And it's the whole country and world having to carry the risk in the meantime as well. I don't see why they don't agitate for impeaching the guy. It's not like Mike Pence is going to pack the court with lefties...
     
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    The problem is that judges can be removed if they purposefully decide with bias. He even complained about Gorsuch being too liberal with his last decision. That should tell you a lot about POTUSs flim-flam feelings. The next senate elections for Kentucky should be telling. Kentucky has been on a slow decline for a long time now. With the recent Chinese tariffs on American grain and goods, a lot of which comes from Kentucky, it'll be interesting to see if McConnell can keep his seat. The Chinese tariffs were a blow to the biggest Trump supporters in the House and Senate. The agro industry is pissed, as well as the liquor industry, which shares a symbiotic relationship in Kentucky.

    It's kind of like the agro sector being annoyed that ICE is detaining their field workers and levying huge fines on them. They didn't think Trump would go through with the directive.
     
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    Trump
     
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    He's up in 2020 but he'll be 78 then and depending on what he does or doesn't get done in the rest of Trump's term, he might decide to consider this year the cap on his legacy and even turn over the leadership (possibly to avoid getting dumped). Then just coast through the rest of his term in the glow of the attaboys over the tax cut, ill effects of which are a way down the road yet but not so far away as 2026. He'd be picking up some of the fingerpointing if he goes for and gets another term.

    He didn't kill ACA but he kept it from thriving, which can be written up as getting some points for effort from the far right despite the fact that last summer's ACA debacle was shameful... he got the tax cut, he is doing the court packing, what's not to like for one of the most cynical Senate leaders we've ever watched in action. It reads more than OK if you're an establishment conservative.

    Why should he risk being deposed in 2020 by losing to ... some uppity female maybe. Democrat Alison Grimes lost to him in 2014 but she was re-elected to KY secretary of state in 2015 and she's been critical of McConnell for his ACA stance as threatening to Kynect, the state's popular health care insurance exchange. Having name recognition from the Senate run in 2014 and her ongoing role as SoS in Kentucky is a leg up. In a year like 2020 when McC may not be seen as top rooster on the walk anymore, that can't hurt Grimes if she wants to make another run at the Senate.

    It could depend on who's running for President under GOP banner though, and how good or bad Trump's record is seen by then. If Pence succeeds Trump early, he might have pretty good coattails in Kentucky and could bring McConnell a re-election bid if he wants it. I always figured Mitch wouldn't cry if he had to preside over a Senate trial of Trump. He's agenda-minded so willing to use Trump for that, but the way Trump has treated him publicly is pretty out of protocol; Mitch may look like a turtle but he has the memory of an elephant.
     
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    I do.
     
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    I guess I don't understand why anyone gets so hung up on this petty crap. It's like when the right lost their minds when Obama was awarded a Nobel prize. Who gives a crap? The only thing that did was de-legitimatize the process and Nobel prizes themselves.
     
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    Doesn't this tend to happen in every off year election? The opposing party almost always gains back ground. Doubt it will be any different this go around.
     
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    There’s something different about this time. A new generation getting engaged. Long overdue IMO. The current one is past its sell-by date and needs to step aside and allow new blood to come through.
     
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    The character and integrity of a leader is not petty crap.
     
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    To an extent yes, but it’s looking like it’s going to be a lot more of a swing than normal.
     
  20. mudslag macrumors regular

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    It's a representation of the integrity of character of the President. That's not petty crap.
     
  21. tshrimp macrumors 6502

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    Did you speak the same when it comes to Obama or when HRC was running for President? Neither one of them have any character, so why does this bother you now? I am guessing because there is an R next to his name.
     
  22. mudslag macrumors regular

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    Hillary wasn't President and Obama didnt talk about grabbing women by the ***** or pay for sex with porn stars or lie about income to get on Forbes list, or crowd size or the number of EC votes. When your best attempt to dismiss someone's post is "what about someone else", it shows you don't really have much of a point to make after all.
     
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    As much as I loathe the man, I can't seem to give a **** about this.

    I mean, the Forbes list is just a masturbatory listing of people who have more money than any one person needs.

    We all know he's a liar, he reminds us every day.
     
  24. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68040

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    You think Obama is on par with Trump, character-wise?
     
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    Trump does :p
     

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