Trump Clinches Republican Nomination

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  1. Plutonius macrumors 603

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    it's not over until Adele signs. he has enough delegates, they might still stick it to him at the convention.
     
  3. bent christian Suspended

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    Well, there is always 2020.

    Giving the nomination to Donald Trump shows that Republicans are not interested in the presidency this term. Political impotency and an inability to win elections at the national level, as well as the coming demographic shifts will only make getting their candidate elected next time more difficult.
     
  4. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    A sad day for the party of Lincoln. I still don't get this:

    Obligated by party rules is one thing, but, I don't feel "obligated" to support someone because "my party" does. It is a political party for crying out loud. If their candidate is not the best candidate for the country, I would not support that candidate.
     
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    plenty are voting just based on the "R" or "D" next to a candidates name.
     
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    Neo-feudalist impulses laid bare to for the world to see.
     
  8. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    if Hillary wins the nomination? yes you bet.
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    would apply to anyone voting for candidates they don't really support just to stop the "other" guy/gal?
     
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    The Sanders supporters I know who are willing to vote for Clinton are doing so because she is the least bad option. I haven't heard anyone talk about "party obligation", and I doubt this is the case for most people in the same position.
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    Nope. Voting for the least bad option is not a show of fealty. This is pragmatism. There is a difference.
     
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    well, they are wrong. the republicans feel the same way about any democrat.
     
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    Right, but many are, in there own words, flipping due to party obligation. There is a difference in motivation here.

    I think you will struggle to find any Sanders supporter talk about obligation to the Democratic party. Perhaps among the power elite (office holders who members of the party themselves), but not civilians.
     
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    Its official

    Hes the man to Lead Murica to the promise land, all he has to do is defeat the wicked witch of the west.

    Hail Big D, Hail Freedom
     
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    We'd be better served long term if people would stop voting for sh*t candidates instead of playing the "least bad" game which only sends the wrong message to a party by legitimizing said sh*t candidate. As we've seen, over time, it has become harder and harder to get good candidates nominated. Only the most ruthless and vile make it to the top which I believe fairly describes both Trump and Clinton.
     
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    Hillary is 78 delegates away from getting it. California has 546 delegates if Clinton wins 15% of that and nothing else she will get the nomination. The only way it will be Sanders is if Hillary gets indicted which doesn't look likely at this point.
     
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    Republicans were repulsed by Trump, but in the end, they had to hold their nose and approve Trump. Because having a Democrat in there would lead to treacherous times for America and for the world on any number of fronts, way beyond the damage that’s already been done.

    Obama, our Agitator in Chief, already did his part in cutting America down to size, leaving foreign policy in shambles and with the world ever more divisive and dangerous, while in the meantime Obama’s sleight of hand goes about refocusing everyone’s attention on sideshow issues like federally mandated transgender proselytizing to children.

    For Hillary’s part, we have the Benhgazi deaths on her watch, the murder of a foreign leader and resulting worldwide migrant crisis on her watch, an infiltration of terrorists among migrants flooding just about everywhere in the world, a mockery of top secret affairs utilizing a personal server, and the erasure of tens of thousands of emails, bringing about a Federal investigation.
     
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    This speaks to an overall lack of engagement mire than anything else. People in U.S. lack a political education. Political involvement was generally not encouraged by the Baby Boom generation, for obvious reason. Now we are seeing the aftermath of the politically ignorant and mostly apolitical upbringing of Gen-X.

    From the very beginning, presidential elections were set up to push a match-up between the two dominant parties in the legislature. A two-party election to president will always devolve into the a choice of the least bad option. Given our system of first-past-the-post voting, electoral college, etc., it will probably always be this way. If you want a better selection of candidates, vote other political parties in the legislatures and elsewhere in state an local government. Stop thinking that a third party will walk into the presidency with no past history anywhere else in government. That has never happened in the history of our country and probably never will. Our system of election to president was not set up to operate that way.
     
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    You come up with these whoppers now and then.

    The 1960s were years of protest and reform. Young Americans demonstrated against the Vietnam War. African Americans demonstrated for civil rights. Women demonstrated for equal treatment.

    Thing is, a lot of this has been settled, but it's in the Democratic interests to keep the fires burning and the people separated.
     
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    Sure, I believe it could start locally, and I believe it is our responsibility to float the cream to the top starting from our local government. The problem is people piss all over it with their selfish desire to have candidates be just like them personally regardless of how they might perform professionally. Litmus tests, wedge issues, et al. The generations of me have only made matters worse.

    If anything positive comes out of all this, Trump has hopefully shown Republicans that they're doing it wrong. If we don't use the next four years to reflect on what's wrong with how we elect representatives then we'll continue to be cursed with a government that doesn't serve us for decades to come.
     
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    I posted this in The BIG D thread!

    all hail Drumpf !

    All Hail Freedom!
     
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    I'd vote for a yellow dog before I vote for Donald Trump or for Hillary Clinton.
     
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    This has been particularly the case on the radical Left. These are people who have absolutely no power in government, yet the first socialist candidate in 100 years comes along and is not good enough for them. Because: ISRAEL! or something else. It's been pretty ridiculous. This election season has done a good job of differentiating those on the Left who actually want to accomplish things from those who just want to throw stones, complain, and have no part in the legislative process.
     
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    The US president isn't particularly powerful being restrained by congress and all. But what they are is influential, their words carry a great deal of kudos across the globe as this is where the trouble comes. Obama is brilliant, when he speaks the world listens, contemplates and enters into intelligent dialog. International relations are at an all time high with him at the helm.

    Trump's mouth is in danger ruining all of that. He will still have the same limited powers to alter domestic policy, but his words have the potential to create a deal of unrest across the world. From an international perspective 'Anyone but Don T' would be good.
     
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    I'll be abstaining from voting this year. Personally I can't wait until November so I can stop seeing Bernie this and that all over the place.

    They say his toupee is made from golden retriever hair.
     
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    SeeBS News has just tweeted their numbers say Donnie has enough to win the nomination...
     
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    You can vote for Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, or just write-in Bernie, Cruz or someone else. Why abstain?
     

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