Trump delays ICE deportations


Rogifan

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Rumors are the acting DHS Secretary (or someone on his staff) leaked operational details to put the operation in jeopardy.
 

JayMysterio

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"At the request of democrats"


Maybe it's more about ICE wasn't prepared, because they didn't know it was supposed to be millions, that later turned into NOT millions.

https://www.vox.com/2019/6/18/18683600/trump-mass-deportation-tweet-ice
The night before a rally in Orlando at which he plans to launch his reelection campaign, President Donald Trump sought to signal strength by announcing a mass deportation campaign targeting millions of people.

“Next week ICE will begin the process of removing the millions of illegal aliens who have illicitly found their way into the United States,” Trump tweeted on Monday evening. “They will be removed as fast as they come in.”

Trump’s announcement apparently caught Immigration and Customs Enforcement by surprise, and it’s unlikely the agency has the resources to carry out an operation of the scale he apparently has in mind.

But that’s likely not the point.

The threat of impending deportation will terrorize the roughly 10.5 million undocumented immigrants living in the country as well as the communities they live in. It also serves as the latest illustration that Trump continues to view hardline immigration policy — backed up with threats of force, even if he can’t follow through — as a political winner on the eve of a campaign cycle in which he faces an uphill path to getting reelected.
 

GermanSuplex

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Good news. Focus on criminals first, focus on those who actually need to be deported, then branch out. Work on the detention centers, increase the speed of the vetting process, etc.

Lots of areas to work together in immigration. No need to go to either extreme. Have we even worked out DACA ffs?
 

JayMysterio

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Good news. Focus on criminals first, focus on those who actually need to be deported, then branch out. Work on the detention centers, increase the speed of the vetting process, etc.

Lots of areas to work together in immigration. No need to go to either extreme. Have we even worked out DACA ffs?
Nope, and he has no intentions of it. Not unless he finds something else he wants, needs it from congress which his fellow republicans won't give him. Then thinks he can use DACA to extort 'uncooperative' democrats who have to support him, but not his fellow republicans.
 

GermanSuplex

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More bluffing from the Bluffer in Chief.

Wonder what new bluff will dominate the news cycle next?
Well, while I don't agree with the divisiveness, I'm just glad he stopped them. If he wants to rile up his base, whatever, as long as rational is still on the table. Kids are dying in custody and that is not good at all, for anyone. Let's fix the process.
 
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blackfox

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I call bullcrap. Bait and switch. Trump can reference his certain stance in stump speaches, and blame others for their failure. An effective, but pathetic genius I suppose.
 
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mgguy

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Good news. Focus on criminals first, focus on those who actually need to be deported, then branch out. Work on the detention centers, increase the speed of the vetting process, etc.

Lots of areas to work together in immigration. No need to go to either extreme. Have we even worked out DACA ffs?
Hell No. Deport every single person with a court issued deportation order ASAP. Court rulings should have consequences. If he isn’t willing to at least do that, then his base should reconsider their support for him.
 
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Zenithal

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He's deported less than his predecessor. Housing these people in these prison camps is simply costing US tax payers money. Cheaper to deport or hell, shoot all of them dead.
 

blackfox

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Due-process is afforded to anyone on US soil. This is a bedrock concept of our rule-of-law. I would expect more outrage on the impingement of that than the impingement of our borders.
 

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Due-process is afforded to anyone on US soil. This is a bedrock concept of our rule-of-law. I would expect more outrage on the impingement of that than the impingement of our borders.
Incorrect.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_Process_Clause

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The due process clauses apply to both natural persons as well as to "legal persons" (that is, corporate personhood) as well as to individuals, including both citizens and non-citizens. The Fifth Amendment due process was first applied to corporations in 1893 by the Supreme Court in Noble v. Union River Logging.[16] Noble was preceded by Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad in 1886. The due process clauses also apply to non-citizens who are within the United States – no matter whether their presence may be or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory"[17]although the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized that non-citizens can be stopped, detained, and denied past immigration officials at points of entry (e.g. at a port or airport) without the protection of the Due Process Clause because, while technically on U.S. soil, they are not considered to have entered the United States.[18][17]