Trump drops the wall to get a budget passed.


bradl

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At least he isn't unreasonable like the democrats and republicans in congress in this case. He just dropped a large campaign promise in order to get a budget pushed through. Lets see if it is enough, hint: it won't be.
Wrong, and you forget something all to easily.

He didn't drop the wall to try to get a budget passed: that was a campaign promise he was going to deliver within the first 100 days of being in office. He failed at that.

And to be brutally honest, the wall won't be built without Trump violating the US Constitution.

BL.
 

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Wrong, and you forget something all to easily.

He didn't drop the wall to try to get a budget passed: that was a campaign promise he was going to deliver within the first 100 days of being in office. He failed at that.

And to be brutally honest, the wall won't be built without Trump violating the US Constitution.

BL.
Wrong on what? Did you read the article?

President Donald Trump has indicated that he's willing to back away from his demand that a government funding bill include money to build a wall on the Southern border, a move that could help clear the way for Congress to avoid a shutdown.
He had originally signaled that he would only put $1 dollar to the budget for healthcare subsidies to shore up the dumpster fire that is Obamacare if a $1 went to the wall.

Trump never said he was going to build a wall in 100 days, that would literally be impossible.
 
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Zombie Acorn

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Wrong:

Don't let the fake media tell you that I have changed my position on the WALL. It will get built and help stop drugs, human trafficking etc.​

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/856849388026687492?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

Stop repeating the fake media, man.
You guys must be drunk, he isn't changing his position on the wall, he is simply not making it a condition to passing the budget.

This is contrary to the normal operating procedure of dem/rep congress where they hold the country hostage over a few corner issues.
 

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At least he isn't unreasonable like the democrats and republicans in congress in this case. He just dropped a large campaign promise in order to get a budget pushed through. Lets see if it is enough, hint: it won't be.
It has nothing to do with reason and everything to do with not wanting yet another black mark on his record. What a way of marking 100 days that would be.
 

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He just dropped a large campaign promise in order to get a budget pushed through. Lets see if it is enough, hint: it won't be.
He dropped the campaign promise a while ago when he changed from "Mexico will pay for it" to "Americans will pay for it."
[doublepost=1493156631][/doublepost]Democrats should call Trump's bluff on this. They should introduce a bill titled "Mexico Will Pay for the Wall" which authorizes the construction of the wall and funds it by matching every $1 dollar put in by Mexico for the wall with $1 from the US budget. Basically, giving Mexico and Trump a 50% discount on the wall. Let's see if Trump manages to get Mexico to pay for even a single peso of the wall.
 

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You guys must be drunk, he isn't changing his position on the wall, he is simply not making it a condition to passing the budget.
Again -- you stated this in the first post:

He just dropped a large campaign promise in order to get a budget pushed through.
So which is it? Did he change his position, or did he not? If he did drop a large campaign promise, then yes, he changed his position. If he didn't change his position on the wall, why is it part of his 100 day "contract with the American voter"?

Link:

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/_landings/contract/O-TRU-102316-Contractv02.pdf

(See the "End Illegal Immigration Act" on page 2.)
 

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Ah the old government shut down trick. "Pass the budget or we're going to close some museum you've never heard of!!!"
 

Zombie Acorn

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Again -- you stated this in the first post:



So which is it? Did he change his position, or did he not? If he did drop a large campaign promise, then yes, he changed his position. If he didn't change his position on the wall, why is it part of his 100 day "contract with the American voter"?

Link:

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/_landings/contract/O-TRU-102316-Contractv02.pdf

(See the "End Illegal Immigration Act" on page 2.)
He dropped his campaign promise to get the budget passed, ie. he isn't making the budget contingent on the wall. It doesn't mean he changed positions, just that he compromised by dropping this item temporarily to get something done.
 
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He dropped his campaign promise to get the budget passed, ie. he isn't making the budget contingent on the wall. It doesn't mean he changed positions, just that he compromised by dropping this item temporarily to get something done.

something... anything. He's desperate to have something in hand for all the 100 days parties and events he's scheduled despite saying it's an arbitrary date
 

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He dropped his campaign promise to get the budget passed, ie. he isn't making the budget contingent on the wall. It doesn't mean he changed positions, just that he compromised by dropping this item temporarily to get something done.
It means that he is not honoring the "Contract with the American Voter" that he signed.

I personally don't count as a "compromise" adding a last-minute patch to the budget in order to fulfill a campaign promise, only to take it back out three days later due to all the blowback. This smacks of a sop to his base, not a real effort to get the wall built. If he really wanted funding for it added to the budget, he should have started putting together support for it in Congress months ago.
 

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At least he isn't unreasonable like the democrats and republicans in congress in this case. He just dropped a large campaign promise in order to get a budget pushed through. Lets see if it is enough, hint: it won't be.
He didn't drop it because he's acting strategically, he dropped it because it's an asinine plan and enormous waste of money that has no support in Congress beyond some fringe lunatics.
 
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Cue all the Dems complaining "but like he's such a hypocrite all the campaign promises" instead of being happy that (as I told you all many times) he won't be putting up a wall.

As if no president/politician ever came short of fulfilling their campaign promises. :rolleyes: