Trump for president?

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  1. tktaylor1 macrumors 6502a

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    Would you want Donald Trump as our president? I am really on the fence for this one. This is the first time I am allowed to vote so I am paying attention to politics more than ever. I mean it would be good to have a completely loaded president so he "can" spend some of his money for the economy, which Trump says he will do. We all know that all politicians are liars though. Trump has changed his mind about a lot of things such as abortion, socialism, and Obama's health care plan. A little while back Trump voted for the three previous things I said but has recently changed his mind. This makes me think he will be unstable when it comes to decisions as a president. Also I don't take him seriously. So what do you think about Trump for president?
     
  2. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    Trump is basically the male version of Palin, so I don't want him anywhere near the whitehouse. He's way too far to the right, and I'm pretty sure he would totally mess up the country if he somehow was elected.
     
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    sure why not ... I also wanted Ross Perot to be President
     
  4. tktaylor1 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Then how do you feel about our current president?
     
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    Trump, like Perot, didn't understand the fact that you couldn't run the government like it is a business. Sure, you can say that you are going to spend your own money for this or that, but for a lot of the things that is run, it takes Congress to agree on the appropriations for said government (read: pass a budget). Trump's money wouldn't do any good if it takes Congress to pass something to keep the government running, especially if they disagree on things and don't pass a budget.

    Trump has a great mind when it comes to Business, so he really should leave it at that. Government, he would fail at, as bad as Perot did. On the other hand, at least the First Daughter would be hawt.

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    He's better than the McCain would have been in most things, but on a whole he gives in to the Republicans way too much. He passed their healthcare plan instead of one that would actually work, kept Guantanamo open, and as far as "National Security" goes he's about the same as Bush. So basically, he was the best of the two choices, but still not very good.
     
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    Our current POTUS was given a bad hand from our previous POTUS, who pretty much trashed the place on his way out. the previous POTUS enacted TARP to bail out the banks with no oversight on the funding, left us with unpaid wars, a horrid economy, and a disaster of a budget for the 2009-2010 fiscal year. And people blame our current POTUS for that, when the bulk of that wasn't his doing. And when he tries to step out and do something better, you hear "No", "where's your birth certificate", "you're a Muslim", and catches more flak when those that do this complaining ask him where all of his promises are, and call for his impeachment.

    Our current POTUS needs to grow a pair and do a LOT more, no doubt; but he's done well so far, given the circumstances and obstacles dealt him.

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  8. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    It's even doubtful that Trump has a "great" business mind. He essentially stepped into his father's already immense real estate business, and has a lot of outstanding liabilities, not to mention many businesses that have filed for bankruptcy.

    The only skill Trump really has is to sell himself to anyone gullible enough to listen.

    As for the OP's question, Trump is not a viable candidate, and the GOP is aware of this. If Trump does somehow win the nomination (which I doubt), it would make Obama's reelection campaign a breeze. Candidates like Trump and Palin are too cartoonish to be taken seriously by the 1/3 of American voters that are not registered with a party.
     
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    I think Palin is a hell of a lot better than Trump and Palin is very bad.
     
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    What do you mean here, to "spend some of his money for the economy"? It's not like Trump will donate half his profits to pay down the debt of the United States. Like any other wealthy person, he's doing his best to increase wealth for himself. And it's far more likely that he'd implement policies that would help to increase his ability to accumulate wealth.

    Arnold Schwarzenegger, when elected as governor of California, told the voters that since he was already rich he wouldn't be beholden to special interests and made it seem as if his wealth would give him an advantage in tackling the budget deficit that the state faced. Eight years later, the deficit remained unsolved and Arnold's accomplishments as a leader could best be described as mediocre.

    The talent and ability to accumulate wealth is different from the talent and ability to govern. Please don't confuse the two. And please do look more deeply into Trump's background. He is far more of a self-promoting huckster than he is a leader of the people. Donald Trump is in the business of Donald Trump, and this is simply another opportunity to spread his brand.
     
  12. rdowns, Apr 23, 2011
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    Take it from a New Yorker, he's a ****ing windbag who lies about everything and I mean everything. Just do a bit of Googling.

    What could possibly have you on the fence? Was it the birther issue? Him taking his casinos into bankruptcy 3 times? His Iraq solution to just "take all the oil"? His China solution to renegotiate? His general I'm a dumb, rich, ****ing American badass attitude? His public feuds with Rosie O'Donnell?


    LOLz. His wealth is way over-estimated. He couldn't pay for our military for more than a week or two before going broke, if that.


    Trump is on record having an opposite position on every issue that he has weighed in on. Pathetic.

    So how can you be on the fence and not take him seriously?
     
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    Trump is very rich but the scale of his wealth is insignificant compared to the expenses of the U.S. government. It's not as if he can reach into his pocket and pull out trillions of dollars and pay off the debt.

    Sadly, I think he does have a small chance of getting elected. He is a celebrity and Americans assign virtue and competence to celebrity for some sick reason.

    I agree with the other posters that he is purely a self promoter.
     
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    He's a racist, narcissistic blowhard. I fear for this country if he gets anywhere close to the White House.
     
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    He's a shady character. The bankruptcy thing really bothers me. Once is bad enough. But 3 times? I know how these bankruptcy hearings go and aside from the fact that assets are hidden, other people have to eat the losses.
     
  16. George Knighton macrumors 6502a

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    No. I would not.

    But, even knowing that it's all probably an egotistical publicity stunt designed to generate revenue, there might be a couple of areas where his influence over Republican policy would be welcome.

    His past policies and statement do not jive with the Tea Party, and I cannot imagine where that association came from.
     
  17. George Knighton macrumors 6502a

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    Are you sure? Many people cannot find more than about 3 billion US $.

    Depends on how you hide things, I guess.
     
  18. Rt&Dzine macrumors 6502a

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    He's using the birther bit for publicity and attracting the flavor of the day (the Tea Party).
     
  19. tktaylor1 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    [QUOTE: What could possibly have you on the fence? Was it the birther issue? Him taking his casinos into bankruptcy 3 times? His Iraq solution to just "take all the oil"? His China solution to renegotiate? His general I'm a dumb, rich, ****ing American badass attitude? His public feuds with Rosie O'Donnell?]


    Yea see I don't like his campaign. I recently watched an interview and he said he would renegotiate with China about our debt and the lady said you can't just call a nation and do that and Trump said with the right people you can do anything. I laughed so hard at that. China is not just going to cave in to your requests. And also the only thing his "campaign" will run on is the birther issue which will get him nowhere.

    Also in that same interview he said he will use some of his money to pay for things and not use Americas money which I think is a load of crap. I just hope the republicans find a good candidate because I really don't want Obama back in office.
     
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    No need to hide what you don't have.

    He is the primo specialist in using other people's money. And they love it??
     
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    Trump is a great salesman. If he wanted to run for president he should be the best at selling himself. I bet he would even turn the campaign into an episode of The Apprentice. The last person to not get fired wins the White House.
     
  22. Sydde macrumors 68020

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    Why? How could a Republican possibly be any kind of improvement? The last Republican president really lowered the bar, and the current president has imperceptibly raised it, it can only get worse. Either way, really.
     
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    Yep, pick the guy with the biggest thumb, because that dike is gonna blow, either way.
     
  24. tktaylor1 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    What has Obama really done besides go on vacation for the last few years? How the hell has he raised any bar? Tell me what all he promised to do and then tell me exactly how many of those things he has accomplished so far.
     

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