Trump foundation told to stop soliciting donations

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  3. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Again I have to ask ... how was the organization ever allowed to exist for years without the proper certification?

    New York's oversight can certainly be questioned regarding that.

    But they are making the right call to shut him down now.
     
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    Wow, Trump is having a bad Monday.

    His foundation ordered to stop fundraising.
    He insults veterans with PTSD.
    He runs a Willie Horton style ad against Kaine.
    Found to have rented to Iranian bank with ties to terrorism.
    20 Apprentice cast and crew share stories of his serial misogyny.
     
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    While Republicans get that Trump may not win, they've been feeling pretty good that the race tightened enough to keep them from hemorrhaging seats down ballot. We have to wonder how much of Trump's current implosion may or may not change that, I don't know that we've ever seen a candidate tank so badly just before the election.
     
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    And that's coming off a weekend where he was unhinged. It was Trump at the improv again. And that doesn't even take into account what SNL did to both him and his childern of the corn or what the NYT did to his taxes. :D
     
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    Children of the corn.

    hehehe..

    I loved that..And it could be true.
     
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    Let me guess - the Trump foundation won't let anybody see how much money they make.
     
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    This thread would be 600 posts long if Hillary started a fake charity.

    Not a peep from the trumpeteers though. Surprise.
     
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    It's not a fake charity, they just have to file some paperwork.

    Actually it probably is a fake charity, but at least it's not a front for the Clinton's.

    Using the foundation as a gateway to the SoS, deplorable.
     
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    You know what else is deplorable? Wait - I'll just say it's tacky. Inviting yourself or demanding to be invited to charity events when you don't donate.
     
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    And let's not forget feedback from those who heard Rudy Giuliani piping up yesterday to say on ABC's "This Week" show that Trump having this "economic genius is a lot better for the United States than a woman and the only thing she's ever produced is a lot of work for the FBI checking out her emails."


    Guess we could thank Rudy for those several breathless scoops, although I'm not sure Trump's staff approved the message. You just never know with Rudy. And he's the only advisor Trump really listened to before the first debate.

    And if that was not enough for a Sunday, Rudy also had wandered over to NBC and wrangled with Chuck Todd over the subject of infidelity and whether it was right of Rudy to bring up Bill Clinton's infidelities during Hillary's campaign against Trump. Todd reminded Rudy of his own past infidelities. Whereupon Rudy stepped in it by saying that "everyone" commits infidelity. The Twitter universe erupted to say uh, maybe not so fast there pal.


    And so another day on the road to Nov 8 gets lost by Trump staffers fighting brushfires set by an inept surrogate. Trump out there on his own is bad enough. Rudy... needs a leash and a muzzle. Or a simpler task, like rounding up some people willing to make donations to Trump's campaign in its waning hours.
     
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    The Clinton Foundation spends their money on stuff like AIDS treatments in Africa. Trump Foundation spent their money on huge paintings of Trump and pay-offs to attorney generals to not investigate Trump's fraud.
     
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    Oh come on..... they're not filing paperwork, because its fake and they don't want people to know what their accounts look like.
     
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    Right, because real charities always use their money to pay the winner of "Trump Pays Your Bills" contest on the TV show Extra.
     
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    Because everyone hates economy-killin' regulations?
     
  17. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Then the regulations shouldn't be there in the first place.
     
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    New York's oversight tends to go for the low hanging fruit first. Failure of mom and pop retailer to pay $43 in cigarette taxes etc. May not be unique among the other states on that score.

    But you'd think with charity registration... after all, not doing oversight on that means putting entire public at risk.

    I found the language interesting in this part of the actual notice that NYS issued:

    The failure immediately to discontinue solicitation and to file information
    and reports required under Article 7-A with the Charities Bureau shall be
    deemed a continuing fraud upon the people of the state of New York.​

    So.. “continuing fraud”... if they file the paperwork then they’re deemed not to have committed fraud, just filed late papers? Or it's already too late not to have committed fraud?
     
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    notice how you'll get no response to this comment from trumpets
     
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    Or to anti-vacciners. (it figures that a moron would give to other morons.)
     
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    Yeah, they were taking a nap.
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    Because its Trump it gets worse.

    Trump used his "foundation" to funnel thousands of dollars to political groups that would lay the groundwork for his political campaign.

    From Real Clear Politics:

     
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    GuideStar gave the Clinton Foundation four stars on its most recent look. That's good enough for me and better than plenty of other charities GuideStar has rated.

    I agree that trying to use donation to a charity as a "pay to try to play" maneuver is deplorable. More reputable people and organizations who want access in order to present information they hope will sway legislative opinion --and who have the dough-- go about it the more usual way, which is to hire someone like a former legislator as a lobbyist.

    You pay him, he registers and proceeds to advocate for your cause. It's legal, it's ordinary, "everybody does it" and there's nothing reprehensible about it as far as legislators are concerned. There's no pretense that "charity" in involved. It's a business transaction, a purchase of professional services.

    Of course since you can write off charitable donations against income for tax saving purposes... that's why I do personally consider attempts to buy access via "charitable" donations deplorable.

    As far as we the citizens are concerned... lobbyists and "pay to play" charity donors may seem all one and the same so there's probably no way to win a gold star from us. Pay to play guys should just focus on trying to win over the legislators in an aboveboard lobbying fashion. Going under the table or via "charitable" donations can have extremely unpredictable consequences.
     
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    its rated higher than the red cross. these people just can't stand that bill clinton presided a time of economic prosperity and then created a foundation which has given healthcare to millions of suffering from various diseases. all they want is a serial racist, xenophobic, misogynistic criminal who talks to and feeds their deepest secrets, aka their id.
     
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    So long as they weren't taking a bribe.
     

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