Trump Has Had 50% More Meetings with Foreign Leaders than Obama

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  1. darksithpro, Jul 6, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2017

    darksithpro macrumors 6502

    Oct 27, 2016
    So much for their isolationist narrative. He's being more diplomatic and active than Obama was in his first term so far. 50% more meetings, 100% less apologies.

    "Below is a chronological list of the two presidents’ meetings with foreign leaders, with repeat meetings excluded. The list does not include meetings around the G-8 or G-20, where both would have met leaders from the same countries. The list does not include telephone calls or meetings with officials such as foreign ministers. (It also excludes Obama’s June 2009 meeting with Zimbabwe’s then-Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai, since President Robert Mugabe held real power, and the position of prime minister was later abolished.)

    Obama, 2009 (19 meetings):

    • Feb. 19 – Canada
    • Feb. 24 – Japan
    • Mar. 3 – United Kingdom
    • Mar. 14 – Brazil
    • Mar. 17 – Ireland
    • Mar. 25 – Australia
    • Apr. 5 – Czech Republic
    • Apr. 6 – Turkey
    • Apr. 7 – Iraq
    • Apr. 16 – Mexico
    • Apr. 21 – Jordan
    • May 5 – Israel
    • May 6 – Afghanistan
    • May 6 – Pakistan
    • June 4 – Egypt
    • June 5 – Germany
    • June 15 – Italy
    • June 28 – Colombia
    • July 6 – Russia
    Trump, 2017 (28 meetings):

    • Jan. 27 – UK
    • Feb. 10 – Japan
    • Feb. 13 – Canada
    • Feb. 15 – Israel
    • Feb. 24 – Peru
    • Mar. 16 – Ireland
    • Mar. 17 – Germany
    • Mar. 30 – Denmark
    • Apr. 3 – Egypt
    • Apr. 5 – Jordan
    • Apr. 6 – China
    • Apr. 20 – Italy
    • Apr. 27 – Argentina
    • May 4 – Australia
    • May 15 – United Arab Emirates (Abu Dhabi)
    • May 16 – Turkey
    • May 18 – Colombia
    • May 21 – Saudi Arabia
    • May 23 – Vatican
    • May 24 – Belgium
    • May 31 – Vietnam
    • June 9 – Romania
    • June 19 – Panama
    • June 20 – Ukraine
    • June 26 – India
    • June 29 – South Korea
    • July 6 – Poland
    • July 6 – Croatia
    Trump’s ambitious foreign policy schedule contradicts critics’ attempts to portray his foreign policy as “isolationist,” or to suggest the 45th president is not interested in foreign affairs.

    On the contrary, Trump has led an active foreign policy — one that puts “America first,” yet still reaches out to other nations to improve relations and work together on common issues.

    Obama’s foreign policy was described as “internationalist,” but stressed “leading from behind.”
  2. MacNut macrumors Core


    Jan 4, 2002
    Trump could run over your dog in his golf cart and he wouldn't apologize.
  3. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
  4. vrDrew macrumors 65816

    Jan 31, 2010
    Midlife, Midwest

    But in the meantime, Barack Obama was busy saving the United States economy from collapse, via the American Recovery & Reinvestment Act. He also passed legislation guaranteeing equal pay for equal work for women (the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act) and the expanded State Children's Health Care Program.

    Comparable legislation signed into law by Trump? Crickets.

    At the end of Barack Obama's first hundred days in office, Americans approved of his performance in office by a 65/35 margin. Don't ask how Donald Trump fared in comparison.

    Oh, and Donald Trump is ahead on one other important statistic too: Number of special prosecutors investigating him for collusion with a hostile power. Trump beats Obama by a comfortable infinity percent on that score too.

    But 10 out of 10 for finding a pathetic and meaningless piece of Breitbart propaganda to try and cover up the stinking dumpster fire that is your slithering maggot of a hero.
  5. darksithpro thread starter macrumors 6502

    Oct 27, 2016

    Tell us how you really feel?:cool::D:D:D
  6. CaptMurdock Suspended


    Jan 2, 2009
    The Evildrome Boozerama
    Okay...he also has really bad hair.

    So there. :p:p:p:p:p
  7. hulugu macrumors 68000


    Aug 13, 2003
    quae tangit perit Trump

    It's like talking about a football game where the score is 77 to 20 and someone pipes up, "Well, they do have a higher percentage of successful field goal kicks."
  8. SusanK macrumors 68000

    Oct 9, 2012
    So, do we have any allies left after all that diplomacy? Russia doesn't count as Trump's banker.
  9. Chew Toy McCoy macrumors regular

    Chew Toy McCoy

    May 13, 2016
    Cause his base put him in office to spend a lot of time outside the country with foreign leaders? I had no idea how cosmopolitan his base is. I thought they'd prefer he'd be spending his time at the Mexican border mixing concrete by now, but I have to admit we've all been wondering how he's going to knock the Belgians and Romanians off their high horse. Give them Hell, Trump!
  10. JayMysterio macrumors 6502


    Apr 24, 2010
    Rock Ridge, California
    A little side note to go along with all that diplomacy...

    Whew! :oops: Makes you wonder who's really doing the diplomacy during these trips? :confused:
  11. Chew Toy McCoy macrumors regular

    Chew Toy McCoy

    May 13, 2016
  12. Strider64 macrumors 6502


    Dec 1, 2015
    Suburb of Detroit
    It's amazing how some ill-informed liberals resort to name calling and yet they think they are superior to everyone else. It's kind of sad really. Save the rhetoric that Obama saved the economy, for all he did was print more money and kicked the can down the road for future generations to tackle. Ronald Reagan said having some debt was good for the country, but I don't think he meant this much ->

    And here's an oldie but goodie on Obama economics ->
  13. 0007776 Suspended


    Jul 11, 2006
    I'm guessing Trump enjoys meeting with them because it gives him a break from the criticism he gets at home, and the foreign leaders know all they have to do is stroke his ego a bit and let him have a few meaningless "wins" and he will roll over and let them do or have whatever they want.
  14. hulugu macrumors 68000


    Aug 13, 2003
    quae tangit perit Trump
    Well, diplomacy is like chess, the other side is playing too.

    It's pretty clear that China's Xi Jinping has figured Trump out and immediately began working the man to his favor. And, I suspect that other leaders are figuring out that if you tickle the man's chin a bit, you'll get whatever you want.

    Additionally, while Trump held 8 more meeting with diplomatic leaders—Breitbart's rejection of Obama's meeting with Tsvangirai is dubious at best—those meetings have not borne fruit.

    Moreover, in a global opinon poll from people in 37 countries, the U.S. has become more unpopular, dropping from a favorability rating of 64 percent to 49. Confidence in the U.S. president dropped from 64 percent to 22 percent.
  15. citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    You just bashed name-calling liberals ... by name calling liberals.

  16. darksithpro thread starter macrumors 6502

    Oct 27, 2016

    Ne he didn't. He was referring to the name calling of Trump. You guys can't stand it when he gets positive press.:p:p:p:p:p:p
  17. citizenzen, Jul 6, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2017

    citizenzen macrumors 65816

    Mar 22, 2010
    I'm always so surprised when Breitbart praises Republicans.

    They're normally so anti-conservative.

  18. samiwas macrumors 68000

    Aug 26, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    Reagan tripled the debt during his tenure, sooooooo......

    That means he spent more than all previous presidents combined, then did it again.
  19. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a


    Apr 20, 2009
    Yes yes....we know that Trump is a social creature who likes meetings and meetings to have meetings and crashing weddings too.

    But what is important is what comes out of those meetings. And to date, his foreign policy has been inconsistent despite all these meetings. Perhaps because they aren't so much meetings as they are classroom lectures for an ignorant man who doesn't know the history of Korea for instance.

    But hey, if you want to give Trump some sort of "victory" on the scoreboard for number of meetings, fine. Put this on your scoreboard too:

  20. Zenithal macrumors 603

    Sep 10, 2009
    And how many of these meetings have resulted in good relations? So far the majority of leaders he's met with have mocked him in private and in the press.
  21. LordVic macrumors 601

    Sep 7, 2011
    When the Canadian government recently announced it would be cooling its ties for a while with the US while Trump is in charge,.

    you know something isn't right. We're Canadians. We are supposed to like everyone
  22. darksithpro thread starter macrumors 6502

    Oct 27, 2016

    Not really. Don't remember off hand, but how much was the arms deal with Saudi Arabia worth? Remember when Softbank went to Trump Tower and pledged 50 billion into American investment? Also, Poland just reaffirmed it's interest in more US LNG. He's actually making good deals.
  23. Zenithal macrumors 603

    Sep 10, 2009

    Saudi Arabia directly sponsors terrorism that ends American lives among others. Money is money, and people will sell their soul for money. Softbank's deal is jointly funded by them, Apple and the Royal Government of Saudi Arabia. The deal was set in motion long before Trump came onto the scene and far longer before he won the election. Poland will reaffirm their deals with the US and western nations to avoid the Russians. The chances of the Poles ruining our long term relationship for the east is next to nil. Selling our defense weapons to Poland and setting up offensive weaponry protects Poland, whose history with Russian meddling goes back hundreds of years.

    To put it short, their history isn't pretty and will never be pretty. Most Poles would rather see Russia destroyed, especially the older generations.
  24. bradl macrumors 68040


    Jun 16, 2008
    Kind of hard to take this with any grain of truth...

    ... when their "former" CEO is in the White House.

    State media, indeed. :rolleyes:

  25. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a


    Apr 20, 2009
    Yeah, great deals..great deals. Trump is doing to the world what the NRA has done to America. More weapons for everyone! Like Oprah: You get weapons, and you get weapons and you get weapons! Weapons for the whole audience! What could go wrong?

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