Trump leave the Paris Climate Accord.

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  1. PracticalMac macrumors 68030

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  2. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    sweet, that 100 billion we are saving could almost pay for the wall..........
     
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    What a stupid, stupid thing to do, and what a science denying, grossly irresponsible, selfish, moronic, destructive, completely corrupt cretin you have serving in office as the President of the United States.

    But, small surprise, alas.
     
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    I wonder if Elon will leave the policy council now.
     
  5. PracticalMac thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Save what?

    There was no obligation to spend $0.01 on it.
     
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    well. bye...........

    it's a SCAM where each country can do as they please, not interested in another politician giving out cash if he/she so decides because of Obama's stupidity.
     
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    How many of you have at minimum read the outline of the accord.
    It does very little in regards to the climate.
    It's about shifting money to undeveloped nations.
    China, which is the largest polluter on the planet, has less obligations (financial) to the accord that the U.S. did.
    The carbon reduction numbers assigned to each country are arbitrary and not based on science.
    This requires funding ($100 Billion) per year for 5 years to be used to finance underdeveloped nations.
    The auditing requirements are virtually nonexistent. It is truly based the honor system.
     
  8. darksithpro macrumors regular

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    President Trump is keeping his campaign promise. He told his voters he was going to do this.
     
  9. niploteksi macrumors regular

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    Did you think this was going any other way? It's just big reality show to Trump.

    But now no one will object to the president paying for a lot of covfefe at his Mar-a-Lago resort :)
     
  10. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    smells like a scam :D
     
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    Hopefully he gives up the government handouts too.
     
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    Supposedly.
     
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    What's that, drop $100 billion worth of bombs on underdeveloped nations? Done and done without hesitation.
     
  14. PracticalMac thread starter macrumors 68030

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    EXACTLY!
    There is no way an actual enforceable treaty could be made, but it is a start!

    It simply says there is a chance man can negatively effect the earths climate (besides a nuclear war), and need to start planning to prevent this.

    If indeed what the scientist are saying is true, our children will suffer a more hostile climate, forget about a bad economy.
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    Only a scam if you make it so.

    Don't have to spend a penny, but can still talk about it.
     
  15. chown33 macrumors 604

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    Where could I read an outline of the accords?

    I'm curious about one thing: if the goals and compliance are non-binding, are contributions into the $100B fund also non-binding? Or is there a compulsory mechanism for contributions, without a similar mechanism for distribution or compliance?

    If funding is discretionary (non-binding), then I see no problem with staying in.

    If funding is compulsory, but there's no accounting mechanism, then that looks like free beer for everyone who shows up, and we send the bill to whoever doesn't.
     
  16. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68030

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    Its official. He pulled out.

    <waits for obvious jokes in reply posts>
     
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    Thanks President Trump. Glad to have a responsible president that doesn't cave into just any agreement because it has a nice title.

    https://www.atr.org/obamas-paris-agreement-all-cost-and-no-benefit-us

    "Through a litany of regulations stemming from the agreement, Obama has essentially offered up the U.S. economy as a sacrificial lamb to further his own legacy. Sadly, the agreement will not just hurt the country’s growth as a whole, but will trickle down to low-and-middle income Americans. As a result of the agreement, energy costs will skyrocket, in turn raising the cost of utility bills for families and increasing the costs of consumer goods."
     
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    http://unfccc.int/paris_agreement/items/9485.php

    The funding is not compulsory since the treaty is non-binding and was not approved by Congress.
    So there's no way it can be funded as Congress holds the purse strings.

    Seriously, this agreement is meaningless when to comes to the climate.
    And no, I'm not a science denier. I believe we are ****ing up our planet, but this agreement is a sham.

    Again... READ the agreement.
    It really is a scam.
     
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    No, I do not want to go there, @Mac'nCheese - the very thought is seriously off-putting, and I want to be able to sip my crisp German Riesling without unwanted images disturbing my tranquillity.
     
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    I just checked my window. The world is still here. That's strange.....
     
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    He's stated that his thinking behind seating on the boards of advisors was that we should push for more moderates advising Trump, not less. Yesterday he said he "Will have no choice but to depart councils in that case".
     
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    Another selfish act from those joke of a man. It hurts his own pocket so sod the rest of the planet. He'll probably be dead in the next 5 years so screw the future generations.

    America further distances itself from the rest of the world trying to emulate Russia.
     
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    America First! We're tired of loosing our jobs and spreading the wealth to other countries. If looking after our own interests first is distancing ourselves as you claim, then so be it.
     
  24. The-Real-Deal82 macrumors 601

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    How is ignoring climate change in your own interests? It affects your country as much as anybody else's.
     
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    Renegotiate <> Ignore
     

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