Trump national leader 74% expect him to win.

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    Q: What do you think Donald Trump cares about more, himself or the country?

    Himself: 41%
    The Country: 59%

    Ha, ha.
     
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    Reaction from Hillary supporters :D

    That's just plain sad.

    Wait a minute, it's that some of you forum regulars I see standing there?

     
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    Odds are he will be, that still doesn't mean the rest of the Republican Party won't fall in line behind a third party candid or an independent when Trump gets it. I would wait and see how today's primaries go before I say he definitely has it. If it goes to a brokered convention there's a good chance of him losing the nomination.
     
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    I do have several republican friends, some pretty hard core.

    And amongst all of them, literally zero of them support trump. Even the ones I thought would support trump don't support trump.

    Now, it could be that I generally only befriend people with a modicum of class, and thus just don't have friends of that type, but who are all these supporters? You'd think that coming from a conservative family, living in a conservative state, and having many old friends from high school in a heavily red state, that I'd know at least a couple of supporters. Nope. None.
     
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    Soros sent into a PANIC. Gives Hillary 13 million.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...s-alarmed-by-trump-pours-money-into-2016-race
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    Are you the guy in the blue shirt @:13 in the video?
     
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    Don't be surprised if the GOP harpoons Trump at the convention and pisses a lot of "voters" off buy working to give someone else the nomination. Even if it means losing the election.
     
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    When Trump wins the primary (if not brokered) a third candidate will appear to try and make him loose against globalist Hillary. Good luck with that..

    What MSM NEVER shows: 20K to over 30K at rallies
     
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    Source?
     
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    I hope it's Romney or Kasich because they both deserve to get wooped. Romney has already had NO effect on things, Kasich hasn't moved from the bottom and is acting desperate with immigration appeals, which is the same thing that sunk Rubio.

    The polls show that Kasich is in a dead heat with Trump in his home state even after Rubio backed Kasich. I think Ohio voters would see that Kasich never even got off the bottom of the charts and the party really doesn't want him.
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    I think he pulled that from the link I posted at the top. I pulled my numbers from there as well.
    https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/03/14/trump-rises-national-support-rubio-falls-and-carso/
     
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    Thanks, KJ.
     
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    The polls show that Kasich is in a dead heat with Trump in his home state even after Rubio backed Kasich. I think Ohio voters would see that Kasich never even got off the bottom of the charts and the party really doesn't want him.
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    Beware of polls and which ones. I predict a 5 to 8 point lead for Trump in Ohio. There is also a dirty little secret of the disenfranchised (by the dems) blue collar democrat workers who want to vote for Trump..
     
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    Exactly right. Don't forget that whoever is leading has an automatic advantage because people not only vote for who the like, they also vote for the person in the lead. Polls in FL help with this as well because we do want to seem more united as a party.
     
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    Wasn't it just this past Friday that we were told polls are meaningless because they only call landlines and young people don't have them? Have we had a breakthrough in polling technology in the past 3 days that I'm not aware of?
     
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    I saw those pics and thought it was a Beyoncé concert or Rolling Stones. You sure Trump is filling those seats??
     
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    That's our point. The polls are not good, that means Trump will be the next president.
     
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    Exactly. The GOP do not want this loose cannon Trump in the White House. First of all they are not sure what his policies actually are, since he doesn't stick to all of them convincingly in his track record. Clinton they figure they can work with, she's not naturally the leftie Sanders has been trying to convert her into for the sake of the progressives in Congress. McConnell is focused on keeping the Senate Republican, and therefore a pretty sturdy check on who lands in the Supreme Court during the next term.

    Trump is an infamia disgraziata, an unfortunate blot on the politics of American presidential aspirations in the 21st century. Losing the White House (again) pales compared to winning it with this jack in the box under the GOP's banner.

    In leading the USA, the President has occasion to use the bully pulpit to summon our will to get through hard times and press on to better times together.

    Trump turns all that upside down by encouraging the xenophobia and prejudices of his most fringe-dwelling supporters, by mocking a good half of us, by threatening to deport miilions of us and to keep millions more immigrants out of a chance to experience the American dream... unless they come with a skill of very beautiful or extremely cheap in which case he has sought visas for them in the past. And that's before he gets to the Oval Office to wreak the havoc of his "deals" upon us and the rest of the world.

    Leaders abroad are quite skeptical of Mr. Trump, and anxious to know that enough of us are too.
     
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    Well, Raleigh, NC is the only city listed, and that rally pulled 8,000 people. We don't know how many of those just came to watch the freak show and gawk at the inbred attendees. So...I doubt it.
     
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    Trump draws big crowds but many leave early when listening to his crap. He won't allow the media outside of the pen to photograph it.
     
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    Remember, there is NO GOP without their voters. Some of us see the "we the people" as more important than "we the ____ party".

    We dumped #1 and #2 (Speaker and Cantor) and we're not afraid to dump every single one of them if we have to. We're not going to fall in line, we're going to make a new line.

    Remember all the sub-parties that came out not that long ago. The Left fell in line, the right didn't and won't.

    Thats where the problem is, we're not doing that. We're making the saving American dream. Our economy simply can't support the people we're letting in. 100% of the jobs created didn't match the population growth.
    There's more people NOT working now than when Obama took office.

    Watch this and you'll start to understand.

    Have you ever asked why they don't create an "American dream" where they are?

    You see, "an American dream" is NOT limited to one area of soil. It actually has nothing to do with the soil. It's the people. That's the exact reason Detroit and Baltimore don't have the "American dream"

    We're trying to stop America from looking like Detroit.

    It's the people, not the land.

    Also, notice how your solution is dependent on someone or something else? Our solution is not dependent on someone or something else. That's the difference.

     
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    Maybe they are closet Trump supporters and will not admit it to you.
     
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    It wouldn't surprise me at all if they decide losing this election is worth it. Odds are that whoever wins will be a one term president. Hillary is generally disliked and if she wins it will only be because Trump is disliked more. She also is too old which will be more of an issue in 2020, Sanders has the same issue if he pulls off a huge upset and gets the nomination. Trump will harm the GOP's reputation more than Bush did, and after 4 years will most likely be facing a stronger democratic candidate than this year. Plus Trump will no longer have the anti establishment vote that he has now since he will have become the establishment further reducing his chance at a second term.

    Cruz also is running against Obama and Washington. That will be much more difficult after 4 years as president especially if the Republicans keep the house and senate.

    Kasich probably could hold on to it for a second term, but with him having to get it through a brokered convention that would taint him and make it likely that he would have a primary challenge in 2020. And while that is rarely successful it also usually hurts the incumbent in the fall.

    So overall I'd say the Republicans have more to lose from winning the election at this point than they do by losing it and trying again with a good candidate in 2020.
     
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    Globalism is neither bad nor good by default. In some ways it's inevitable, especially for things like certain foods from certain climates...

    There have been Republicans that are globalists as well, especially during last decade when they had the filibuster-proof majority between 2001 and 2007. Which included the President, based on what was or was not vetoed. Or they are too easily being pushovers for every lobbyist dancing in the building.

    Would a businessperson using H1Bs, illegals, and/or lobbyists be considered "globalist"? Why or why not? Especially if plenty of legal and capable talent already exist within the borders?
     
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    I honestly don't think the GOP wants him under their banner anymore. It was one thing before the primaries began to say, "Come on it" not thinking he'd have a hope in hell. After all, the man has been a democrat the majority of his life. But now, he is a loose canon and the damage he will cause the party by having a "R" next to his name would mean they'd lose the house, the senate, and spend the next 10yrs digging out from all the material he gave the left. It's the same on the other side. Do the democrats really want a socialist who wants to enact $17 trillion dollars of new spending and the tax increases to boot? Not one iota, it would put this country under a strain it has never felt. Sure it's cute the little old socialist/communist is doing pretty good, but I highly doubt they want that headache over a decade when reality sets in.

    I do think some of Trumps positions have been blown out of proportion by the left however. Sealing the border and enforcing immigration laws is suddenly "code" for "hates all Hispanics" and his supporters are racists. It doesn't get more disingenuous than that. But alas politics is perception.
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    I agree, somehow the virtue of being "electable" escapes the republican voter base. Kasich is the only one who beats Hillary comfortably outside the margin of error. Yet somehow we think it's fun to elect a crack job. As a society we have fallen in love with who's "trending" and lost sight of the long term goals/purpose. I wouldn't look at a candidate and vote for them simply because they would be the first woman, Hispanic, black, catholic, reality TV star, jew, ect. That mindset seems to be very popular now.
     

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