Trump quotes Wikileaks/Sputnik misquote

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  1. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    I admit it -- I'm nervous. Somebody in Trump's campaign is getting fed hot-off-the-press anti-Clinton propaganda straight from Russia. As it happens, someone made a dumb error. Read this:

    http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-pu...-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635

     
  2. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    On the way home from work I heard some of Trump's rally where he was talking about, "sleazy Sidney," and the eaxact same things your Newsweek article talks about.

    Trump is in a desperate position, so he's grabbing at anything he can.

    Hopefully this disinformation (lies) won't be spread too irresponsibly.
     
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    Trump has many ties to Russia. I wonder if one of them has close ties to the FSB? The following article was published right before Manafort's activities were disclosed in the NY Times and Manafort resigned.

    http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/
     
  4. Limey77 macrumors regular

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    My question is "why don't the moderators call him out?" Surely that's their job to moderate the debate and correct fallacies on both sides?

    Obviously they'll miss some things, but 80%+ of what Trump said was demonstrably false - not a mistake but deliberately false because it played to his base. The moderators should call him out each and every time he lies.
     
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    Moderators job is to moderate, not "call people out", Hillary is supposed to know the facts to make a rebuttal. The moderators are simply there to relay the questions and make sure time constraints are enforced.
     
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    Maybe debate broadcasts should have a real-time fact check ticker underneath.
     
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    It really doesn't matter who calls Trump out during or after the debate. His deplorable supporters aren't interested in the truth and anyone who challenges Trump's lies will only be labelled by his supporters as being in bed with the Clinton campaign. Fortunately, the number of decent good people outnumber his deplorable supporters and don't fall for his nonsense. This election is no longer about policy, it is about human decency.
     
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    I don't think Hillary (or Donald) rebutting something that is supposedly a quote from an email really works during a live debate. It's a he said/she said thing. Unfortunately. It's something that needs to become an article that can provide the research and from a 3rd party. Now you can argue bias - but it's far more effective than one of the candidates, themselves, debunking it.
     
  12. Snoopy4 macrumors 6502a

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    Or maybe moderators should just moderate.
     
  13. cube macrumors G5

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    That is orthogonal.
     
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    Who is interested in the truth? People love to engage in self-deception.

    Look, all politicians seem to lie once in a while, for varying reasons. Some of their supporters will do the same things and be no less deplorable all while pointing a finger at the other camp. Just making sure you understand a basic truth. Which is not the "When I point one finger at you, I accidentally point three at me" - which is another cozy trait people engage in unwittingly, even if they give it a thumbs-up at the time. So maybe there's a bigger issue of forgiveness, which is also a trait of human decency? How can we move forward together, especially to better this country?
     
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    The only deplorable people in this election cycle are the two front runners. Hillary should look in the mirror once in a while.
     
  16. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    You know we need more facts in politics and less ******** rhetoric. And that applies to both sides and in every country.

    We also need government to do more what the people want and be less nannying. Though sometimes nannying is good.
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    And the racist Trump supporters.
     
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    And lying Hillary supporters.
     
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    How have Hilary supporters lied?
     
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    Please, anyone who tries to equate Hillary's shortcomings to the disgusting things that Trump has done is lying to themselves. Especially, his fake Christian right supporters claiming to be Christians.
     
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    Donald Trump, Putin's Bitch


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-card-b:homepage/story&utm_term=.b14529c05673
     
  21. balamw, Oct 11, 2016
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    This, to me is the true danger of Wikileaks.

    We simply can't know what the true source of the information they "leak" is and it can get distorted so easily by a single round of misquoting/mistranslation.

    While some/much of the stuff they have posted may well once have belonged to Podesta, other items may simply be planted in there by sources unknown. How would we ever know for sure?

    Not unlike the police planting evidence.

    Or Mr. Trump confusing someone (Putin) calling him "flamboyant" to being called "brilliant", "a genius."
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...rump/did-vladimir-putin-call-trump-brilliant/

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