Trump Repeals Regulation Protecting Workers From Wage Theft

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  1. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    trump caring for the little guy.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...us_58d9408ee4b03692bea814c9?8o0h8irugwjdims4i
     
  2. Chew Toy McCoy macrumors regular

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    Cool. Now government contractors can hire low wage undocumented workers as a low bid cost saving measure to win the contract without reprisal from the government.

    I love irony. It’s the BEST!
     
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    Ensuring the safety of your workforce is socialism by the back door.
     
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    People seem to get upset about Trump undoing stuff Obama did in the last few months of his 2 terms but if it was really that important why did Obama take 8 years to do it?
     
  7. MacAndMic macrumors 6502

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    Another feel good bill by Obama eliminated. Thanks for doing your job Trump.
     
  8. Chew Toy McCoy macrumors regular

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    The disgusting thing about Republicans at the top is they think the only way they can inspire people to start and maintain a business is to remove roadblocks to screwing over their employees and the local environment. The disturbing thing about the Republicans at the bottom is they have the most to lose from this mentality and they still think it’s awesome.
     
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    This is the least shocking thing Trump has done as president. Trump is the grand master of screwing over sub-contractors and refusing to pay the little guy. Wage theft is literally his modus operandi as a business man.
     
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    And this is how the top portray themselves for the working people while the bottom dwellers fight for the crumbs that trickle down.
     
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    Just because it takes you 8 years to finally get that nagging back injury fixed, it doesn't mean that when you finally do get it fixed it wasn't important. It just means perhaps you weren't able to get to it. In the case of your back, money. In the case of politics, perhaps an obstructionist congress determined to fight you on anything, and shot blood out of any nearby orifice if you tried executive orders.
     
  12. forcesteeler macrumors 6502

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    Republicians do what there Donors a.k.a Corporate America Tells them!, Trumps for the little guy, I swear Americas are very stupid and they deserve this!
     
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    Look at it this way. The Donald is making former corruption look pale and wimpy by comaprison. So in a back handed way things now look better before Trump.
    Think about it........makes sense in a tweety sort of way.
     
  14. LizKat macrumors 68040

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    People did want a lot of what Obama finally did by exec order, no thanks to the GOP's obstruction.

    Many of the orders he was working on took a long time to develop just because they were, formally, "rules".

    There are a lot of constraints on issuance of new rules, and their development is usually over a long period involving impact studies, public hearings, Congressional hearings, public comment periods. In addition various government agencies need to investigate related costs, and see that the new rule will apparently meet constitutional and Congressional restraints.

    In short there must be a determination that the public good is served, another one of those things that Donald Trump and his minions don't really give a fig about.

    And yes, some of Obama's rules were issued late in his second term because it became clear that if the administration did switch parties, then Donald Trump was going to try to do exactly what he's doing now, except now it's taking a little longer than Day One for Trump to set in motion some parts of his destruction of government by, for and of the people.
     
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    What is the difference between obstruction and congress acting as an equal branch of government which has sole responsibility for legislation?
     
  16. skunk macrumors G4

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    Sometimes it's hard to tell.
     
  17. Michael Goff macrumors G4

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    One has the group actually doing something beyond saying no, the other is what the Republcians did.
     
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    Compromise is not considered a dirty word in a congress acting as an equal branch of government.
     
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    Constitutionally I think the president is just someone who can lobby congress on legislation just like anyone can [well maybe not me]. The only legislative power he has is to obstruct laws he doesn't like which I think he has done once or twice. Obstructor in chief.
     
  20. LizKat, Mar 28, 2017
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    Yeah and it's making the GOP leadership very nervous about 2018, never mind 2020. The Republicans only rail against executive branch power when they are not the ones holding it. But, Trump is making waves that are splashing cold water on his own party's consituents. Even on his own supporters now. The GOP leadership figures it's easier to extend party power in the executive branch if you're at least a little nuanced about it. Being nuanced about anything is not exactly The Don's style.

    Talk about Obstructor in Chief, Trump is becoming one even as he rolls back rules and regulations. He's becoming an obstructor of the GOP's future plans, even while his own are not entirely clear yet, short of the fact chaos seems to suit his temperament if not his party's agendas. It's possible yet he'll make some error in ordering some rule or other off the books. Not all of them can be so easily displaced. Some do require legislation. If the Congress doesn't feel like going there, he'll have to withdraw whatever order ran up against such a wall.
     
  21. tshrimp macrumors 6502

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    About time some of the government regulations were lifted. I hope he continues this.

    I am having difficulty accessing web pages where I am currently at, although macrumors is working fine, so can't give a link. But if you do a google search you can find his explanations on why he did this along with the 3 other regulations.
     
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    Not only that, Paul Ryan's statement the day Trumpcare went down in flames finally explicitly acknowledged that they spent the entire Obama administration being a party of obstruction. Funny how no one seemed to notice that...
     
  23. LizKat, Mar 28, 2017
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    Well i remember reading these and I was not very happy about them.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/pb/n...a-worker-safety-rules-awaits-trumps-signature

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/13/business/us-worker-safety-rules-osha.html

    I'll look up what Trump had to say later this evening, thanks for the heads up.

    UPDATE:
    So far this is what I found and I am still not impressed

    http://www.wbir.com/ext/news/nation...gulations/51/nationnow/5Uu4U5FLQASmMmm8maGsmS

    Trump signed the bills in a ceremony in the Roosevelt Room of the White House, handing out pens to members of Congress. "This was a lot of work by a lot of people to get this done," he said. "It will lead to a lot more jobs for a lot more people."

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    This one doesn’t quote Trump, instead quotes the House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy

    https://thehillnews.net/news/Trump-signs-bill-that-kills-Obama-era-Worker-Safety-Rule

    On Monday, just after Trump signed the bill that eliminated the rule, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) praised Trump’s decision, saying the rule unfairly placed businesses on a “blacklist” and that it “unjustly blocks many businesses accused of violating labor laws from federal contracts.”

    HOwever the same piece quoted Elizabeth Warren with a different view of course:

    In a last-minute effort to fight for the rule earlier this month, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) released a staff report that showed 66 of the federal government’s 100 largest contractors have at some point violated federal wage and hour laws. Since 2015, the report says, more than a third of the 100 largest OSHA penalties have been imposed on federal contractors.

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    Well I ran into this piece which wasn’t something I wanted to read but I did and I can say right now whatever they do to weaken OSHA in the Trump administration, I’m against it.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...oom-cheap-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs
     
  24. Herdfan macrumors 6502

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    Did you ever think some of the Dem's "worker protection" laws actually hurt workers. I have 2 examples. The first one is anecdotal, but when the new labor laws went into effect 12/1/16, I had to change the status of two employees from exempt to hourly. Not a big deal on the surface, but I was paying them both a salary. Even on days when there was 6" of snow on the ground and they couldn't work, they still got paid. Now they are hourly and I am under no obligation to pay them on days they can't work. I do because it is the right thing to do. But I don't have to.

    Second, the ACA. How many employees working 40 hours a week all of a sudden were getting 29.5 hours. That's a 25% pay cut right there in the name of helping the little guy. :(
     
  25. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    If you are behind helping the little guy, then your anger should be directed at the corrupt businesses who would prefer to cheap out on things and leave their employees twisting in the wind rather then make sure their employees had decent healthcare.

    Really stupid and shortsighted when you think about it because a sick employee isn't a very productive one. A business should want their employees to be healthy. But they would prefer to make no effort themselves on that front. Profits before people. Always.
     

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