Trump says Kim Jong Un has a “great and beautiful vision for his country”

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  1. Rogifan macrumors Core

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    Good lord. Never could one imagine the president of the United States would have nicer things to say about North Korea and its leaders than places inside the United States.

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    trump stepped on NK soil, so no matter what you say things are working for him
     
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    Kim Jong Un's "great and beautiful vision" for his country has seemed to be getting fatter while almost his whole country starves.
     
  4. Rogifan thread starter macrumors Core

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    I don’t even know what this means?
     
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    trump is kissing that dictators butt and that dictator is playing nice, I don't see the problem
     
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    Yes, Having the President of the US show up at your becon call can absolutely be seen as confirmation for the Un Regime and tacit approval of his dictatorship. Trump has elevated Kim Jun Un and given him credit at a national level.

    That can be extremely dangerous considering that the NK dynasty of the Kim family has been a historically brutal dictatorship in which the abject poverty of his people has been a regular staple of their familiar leadership. Combined with gross abuses of human rights. Mass executions. Famines due to corruption and horrible policy leading to millions of people dead from disease and starvation.

    but yes. "working out for him"..

    "grand vision" for his people. if Kim Jun Un wants to do whats right fo rhis people he should probably consider reversing the trends of military dictatorship under fear of death to his own population and actually do things that would help his country.

    But Trump won't see that because Trump clearly admires that.
     
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    I DON'T CARE if trump has his lips stuck to Kims rear end, give peace a chance even if it means trump kissing his butt over & over & over.....
     
  8. LordVic macrumors 603

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    I'm ok with peace. I'm not against the strive for peace.

    I'm against the US president trying to elevate the dictatorship of NK to the same international level as leaders who do not perform barbaric acts against it's own populations, while developing nuclear weapons with the guise of offensive posturing against neighbouring states while at the same time having the 2nd largest standing army in the world.

    if NK wants peace. North Korea can change it's policies. NOT the west. you are tacitly supporting a dictatorship that has absolutely disgusting record of human rights abuses under an authoritarian dictatorship that does not honour the rights of it's citizens. An openly hostile country.

    Trump has basically walked back the entire wests "line in the sand" regarding north korea to achieve peace, instead of holding North Korea's leadership responsible. North Korea is makin no concessions. Only the US is.

    the fact that you are willingly supportive of NK's behaviour and think we should accept them as they are, while you often scream against "socialism" is completely utterly in contradiction to eachother.
     
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    THE way the other worthless clueless administrations handled NK did not work, trump kissing butt is working. we impose sanctions on NK for what? testing missiles? please. as far as his human rights abuses, that is for the NK people to deal with in a way THEY see fit
     
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    Testing nuclear weapons with the expressed statements of using them against regional parties.

    your support towards NK while you double talk back about things like socialism are duly noted. pretty telling about your opinions mate.
     
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    who threatens NK? the regional parties that hold freaking war games of NK's coast...........
    if Russia was holding war games of Canada's coast and you guys had nukes you might make the same threats..............
     
  12. Rogifan thread starter macrumors Core

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    How is it working? How was it not working before? There was no war with NK before Trump.
     
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    If that is your definition of "playing nice" than yeah, no problem indeed...
     
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    the Koreas have never officially ended the war.....................o_Oo_Oo_O......
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War
     
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    Duh. What I meant was we weren’t fighting with NK prior to Trump. He says we would have been at war if he wasn’t selected but that’s just BS.
     
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    And how had that exactly changed? How has NK changed internal or external?

    Only change is that 2 fatties with funny hairdos have a hardon for each other (well Trump for Kim, Kim might be smart to just fake it for the benefits).
     
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    And as long as those two fattiest are busy kissing each Others rear end we are not holding stupid war games off the coast and wasting stupid money doing most here can’t see the Forrest for the trees ,...
     
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    This is false. Even Obama had the sense to warn Trump that NK would be the biggest issue.
     
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    So if Hillary had been elected we’d have had a nuclear war with NK?
     
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    My crystal ball is broken today.
    As you know I rarely engage in this type of speculations. The moment we had to make a choice between DJT and HRC has gone, so there is no need to answer this question anymore.
     
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    see post 21.............. she was a POS warhawk.
     
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    You seem to be under the mistaken impression that North Korea has ramped down their nuclear weapons program. If anything, they have accelerated it since the first Kim-Trump summit.

    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-...-warheads-in-growing-stockpile/4491560324758/
     
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