Trump Says US Might Not Defend Some NATO Members

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  1. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    The height of irresponsibility, not to mention his love affair with Putin. This is a dangerous psychopath.


    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-manafort-compassionate-human-trump-40728734
     
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    Thanks. Reached my free article limit for the month at NYT.
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    So you agree that the US should not honor its treaties? smh
     
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    Trump: “F NATO; Peace with Russia.”

    War Party: “Cold War 2.0! Our contract$$$$$$$$$$! Muh NATOs!”

    Trump: “America First.”

    Jefferson: “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations—entangling alliances with none.”
     
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    The only consideration for Trump with regard to NATO is money. He is clueless when it comes to foreign policy and international affairs. He is a dangerous idiot.
     
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    The dangerous idiot is presently in the White House and his name is Barack Obama. Trump, his buffoonery aside, isn’t the one pushing us toward nuclear conflict with Russia. Obama and other War Party traitors are.
     
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    America should only support those in NATO who pay their way. Only a handful exceed the 2% minimum, including the US and the U.K. Those who don't pay at least 2% should pay up or be ejected from NATO.

    Trump is right, as usual.
     
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    Keep saying it and maybe you'll actually believe it.
     
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    If they don't make sense anymore, then yes. They need to be rewritten and or amended.
     
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    Can you link to the 2% minimum requirement. My googlefu is failing me.

    Never mind. I found it. If the 2% requirement were enforced only 4 countries would be in NATO.
     
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    That's fine but you don't unilaterally make a statement saying if I'm President, the US may not honor its treaties. Let's not forget he already made statements challenging the full faith and credit of the US. This man is dangerous.
     
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    I interpret what he is saying is that we're not going to continue to be taken advantage of regardless of the agreement. If other countries don't uphold their end then they get what they pay for....or in this case they get exactly what they paid for.....no protection.
     
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    You can say he's dangerous all you want. He isn't dangerous to Americans. He may be dangerous to the globalist movement. He may be dangerous to the establishment. He isn't dangerous to me.
     
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    He could draw red lines in the sand. Perhaps a hashtag campaign?
     
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    That's it right there.
     
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    The most dangerous part, "Trump also says in the Times interview that he would not criticize Turkey for cracking down on political opponents and restricting civil liberties.". Do you want a Islamic Republic of Turkey like the Islamic Republic of Iran? Because that's how you get a Islamic Republic of Turkey.
     
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    Oh, I already believe it. Trump is saying no to Cold War 2.0 with Russia. **** the War Party’s interest$.

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    And if Trump (as president) refuses to uphold their part of the deal, then the US should be removed.
     
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    How does that work exactly when he actually wants other countries to pay much more than they do now (see OP)? I wonder who wants to sell them all the new toys.
     
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    Can you imagine what the reaction in this forum would be if Obama came out and said that we would not honor our commitments to our allies? He would be attacked and rightfully so. It may have been a mistake to let the baltic states into NATO, but now that we have it is too late and we have to honor our commitments.

    Similarly to Syria, it was stupid of Obama to set a red line, but once he had he should have followed through with it.
     
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    This is the height of Trumpian irresponsibility. Because dangerous talk like Trump's is how wars get started.

    Obviously, regardless of the specific language in any treaty or agreement, the United States and its Commander in Chief reserve the right to decide how, and to what level, to respond to any international crisis.

    But actually speaking publicly in the manner that Trump just did simply offers the Vladimir Putins and Kim Jong Uns of the world an invitation to test America's resolve. It needlessly alarms every one of our allies: From Britain and Canada to Japan, Korea - all the way down to our newest - and most vulnerable allies: Poland, Lithuania, Latvia.

    Vague talk on the part of the US Ambassador to Iraq in 1991 is what many believe led Saddam Hussein to invade Kuwait. Basically starting the cycle of wars and disasters we are still dealing with in that region. The US Ambassador, talking to Saddam, basically waffled about what the US response to Iraq's claims over Kuwait were. We're still paying for that.

    What does Trump think that
    Vladimir Putin is going to take away from his talk about our allies "meeting their obligations"?

    For the morons out there, including Donald J. Trump, I'll tell you: Vladimir Putin and his henchmen will start searching for any way possible to play up any failure on the part of Poland, or Lithuania, or Latvia. They'll put up stories in Russia Today. They'll hire sock puppets to bombard social media sites with junk about racism or corruption in those countries. They'll organize and fund phony "separatist" organizations.

    And then, in the middle of the night, they'll slip across the border with a division or two. Take over a NATO ally, and point out the fact that Latvia only spent 1.6% of its GDP on defense.

    And then we'll be stuck.

    Because an orange-faced buffoon who doesn't know the first thing about real power politics wanted to win the vote of America's trailer trash.
     
  23. rdowns thread starter macrumors Penryn

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    But, but, but, Donald makes the best deals. You know, like the one he made to allowed his rival Cruz to upstage and embarrass him at a moment of maximum exposure. Donald Trump is a fraud.
     
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    The best part of that whole fiasco is that Cruz congratulated Trump on the nomination. At the end of his speech he told voters "If you love our country, and love our children as much as you do, stand, and speak, and vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom, and to be faithful to the constitution." So Trumpkins are upset that he's not talking about their candidate.
     
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    Lmmfao. Let's eternally stay at stupid wars supporting NATO no matter what it is in for. I might end up voting trump after all
     

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