Trump scares China... they don't fair trade.

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    http://freebeacon.com/politics/china-warns-u-s-after-trump-wins-nevada-caucus/
    Even China knows Trump will win. Dammm! Looks like American is about to pull out a Trump card.

    They KNOW Trump will stop all the trade and China buying up US companies.

    Get ready for a HUUUUUGE job market in the US.
     
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    And all of that huuuuge debt that China bought.
     
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    Which it wouldn't have if it wasn't for needing Americans as customers? So just make the products poorly but give a veneer of quality, have planned obsolescence, and people who repurchase will still think "quality". Marketing psychology is cool.
     
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    Let's just say that China really is undervaluing their currency. (They aren't, but lets take Donald Trump at his word...)

    Isn't that the same as giving US customers a huge discount on things they buy from China?

    So Trump is suggesting that - rather than letting the Chinese sell us products extra cheaply - he'll add on a special tax that will go to the Government?

    Congratulations, Wal-Mart Trump Voters. You sure can spot a good deal!
     
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    If I owe you $100, I have a problem... If I owe you $10,000,000 ... you have a problem.

    Nations need a safe place to put their investment, the US is still a good place to hold money because other nations are doing so bad.
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    It's a balance that favors China. They are buying US companies with our money. We need good jobs and even if the prices go up and it's a wash, we'll at least have more companies over here and less low paying jobs. China has been doing this for many years. It buys our debt with our money.

    They need us more than we need them.
     
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    Isn't China holding our money, or where out money should be.
     
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    There's a balance between the US and China. They buy our debt and we buy a TON of their products. The net advantage has been to China for a long time because we don't produce stuff as cheap as they do.

    The root problem is that we can't compete with out higher cost of living. China cuts the costs, we don't, they win. At the same time, they have better growth and need to sell their products somewhere. We still have a strong retail market and when that's gone, we're done.

    The balance is so far off for so long, China is able to buy up a lot of our businesses.

    Not to mention IP, China is hacking us to death and it needs to stop. Trump is the one to stand up to them. China knows this.

    Most nations can't compete with US innovation because we are closer to a true capitalism system. We have corruption and problems, but not as bad as theirs.

    Trump will give the advantage back to America.
     
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    Many of the low-wage jobs that are being done in China are jobs that we don't really want here in the USA.

    Yes - we need low-wage jobs, for low-skilled an entry-level workers. But America is remarkably good at creating those jobs already. There are thousands of them going unfilled in every city in America.

    Rather than slap on punitive tariffs (which would essentially pick the pocket of every consumer in America) - why don't we ask our Government to start doing things that actually help American companies and workers. Like fixing our infrastructure - so that high-tech manufacturers have an incentive to set up shop here. Spend more on education, so they can recruit the engineers and programmers they need.

    Slapping tariffs on Chinese goods will cost American shoppers billions - maybe trillions in higher prices. It won't bring jobs back here. And it will cost good US jobs - at companies like Boeing and GE, when China responds with tariffs of their own. So Chinese airlines buy Airbuses and and Rolls Royce
    engines rather than Boeing and GE.

    Protectionism is bad for business. Its bad for workers. Its bad for consumers.
     
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    how will he magically do this?
     
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    Down with NAFTA!
    Down with TPP!
    Autarky now!

    TRUMP
     
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    I question the accuracy of this based on Trump's prior actions. It's more interesting to look at what people do when they aren't running for public office.
     
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    We don't want those jobs? Well soon enough the robots will do the work and Americans will just stand in line for food stamps and live under the bridge.

    How's Obama fixing things for the poor? How many factories has Obama brought in from China or Mexico? How often has Obama even talked about this?

    Oh, wait, he's playing golf... Don't bother him, he's playing golf.
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    It's magic like arithmetic is magic to a high school graduate... It's only magic until they understand it.

    It's called economics and being able to make deals. The other parts involves possession of a spinal cord, a game plan, and a genuine concern for America.
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    Trump runs his businesses as he needs to. If he subs out to China, it's because he has to compete against others. If nobody subbed out, it would be fair.
    He wants to make it fair for businesses that stay here and provide jobs here.
     
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    Trump isn't going to stop having his manufacturing done overseas.....that's a fantasy
     
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    And how exactly is he going to get past the free-market loving Republicans in Congress?
     
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    He's going to use his Trump Card... It's HUUUUUGE.
    He's going to stand them down like he does with the media.
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    It's not his manufacturing that matters, it's all the manufacturing combined that matters.

    BTW, isn't that what people have been saying since Trump started his run? Everything he's done, they said couldn't be done, yet it was done.
     
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    The media cares about ratings. Trump's antics are gold mine for them. Politicians care about appeasing their campaign backers. The only way some of them might flinch is if they're nearing an election. (Easier to manipulate the House in this way than the Senate. And even then it's all for nothing if you can't sway the Speaker)
     
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    it won't happen.......rich peoples' profits trump your interests
     
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    It's truly a sad system that has left America on the brink of failure. They should be arrested for what they've done. Build a wall around Washington.
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    People like you keep saying "won't happen" But it will happen, you just don't understand how it can happen.
    Some people don't have the mental horse power to see things. Not everyone can see things. Microsoft knew the iPhone would never sell. Blockbuster knew people would continue to rent VHS and DVD movies.

    Keep thinking can't, but the truth is the one that can't is you, others find a way to make things happen.
     
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    It's not just Washington that that has been corrupted. Money is seeping into state and local elections across the country.
     
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    The reality of the situation is that the nation is being looted. They're ringing up as much debt as they can and once they reach a certain point, they'll just leave. Businesses are leaving, jobs are leaving, we're in too deep. not sure if there is much time to save things at this point.

    This is why character really matters. It's really sad that Hillary is a front runner and she's been a sellout for her whole life. She has no character, yet so many people no longer care.

    The next economic system will probably be entirely mobile and the nation as we know it now won't be the same. This could be one of the last elections if we don't get it right. The biggest problem is that these people just keep getting away with what they are doing.
     
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    Here is a nation that murdered 87 million of t's own people and in the 80's the west was paying for it! In 1964 they asked for aid or they would start a war, how far would they have made it if they done so? Today the U.S/E.U/Japan bankrolls china and yet we borrow money from them that they make from the Trillion dollar fake industry that they set up!

    The west has transferred billions in industry and military tech and a lot of that goes via Israel that was never necessary, all lies that has put it at risk as if you want a foreign occupation to happen!

    Stuck under the bronze age and raised by the west and now allowed to control 97% of the worlds minerals and buy up companies with money that the didn't earn! Now what do you think Americans and westerners should do?!!!
     
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    By the same token America murdered 10 million in Iraq? And the British murdered a million in Ireland in the potato famine as well as tens of millions in India?

    China wasn't stuck in the Bronze Age 5000 years ago, it certainly isn't now.

    And businesses decided over their own free will to do tech transfers.
     
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    America needs to rebuild it's middle class and that middle class needs to support American businesses. We need to pull those jobs back and as soon as China realizes that we can and will, their markets will tank. The real problem is that we are supposed to have a balance that helps both sides, we've been sold out but corruption on our side.

    This is one of the reasons we're not supposed to take foreign contributions. This is what Hillary found a way around. She uses paid speeches to Bill to line their pocket with cash. It's done by skilled lawyers so as to hide the truth. Remember this is the man that lied to the world, caused his own impeachment and said "it depends on what the meaning of is is".

    Yet America embraces their own rape. America loves to be raped by corrupt people.

    Enjoy the ride, you've earned it.
     
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    I presume you're talking about electronics jobs? Why would they move back? The supply chain is in East Asia, wages are lower and the infrastructure is better.
     

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