Trump tells advisers he wants US out of Syria

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  1. Solomani macrumors 68040

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    Sounds good, let’s get out of there. There are no good guys in that conflict.
     
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    And to be honest, as much as I find the idea of the Mexican Wall to be stupid….. if POTUS needs money to fund his wall….. oh here it is! The money we throw away on Syria could have built several big beautiful border walls with Mexico, Canada, and Philippines!
     
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    Russia and Iran certainly want the US to get out of the Syrian conflict. Not sure how Trump would rationalize being on the same side of anything with Iran though, if anyone bothers to inquire.

    "Vladimir says it's for the best" seems true enough, but I'm not really expecting Trump to tweet that to the planet.

    As for the border wall, Trump can't just unilaterally rearrange DoD budget numbers. Didn't he learn anything by trying to swing numbers out of the previous budget into funding for the wall after Congress said it was a low priority? And the $1.6 billion Congress finally did stick in the new budget instead of the $25 billion Trump wanted remains their message to him.

    Anyway Trump's fixation on a massive "improvement" of a southern border wall is going to be tied up in courts over environmental and eminent domain issues for decades, if the idea even survives that long.

    Back to Syrian conflict: How many times is this we've buddied up with Kurdish tribes for our own purposes and then elected to leave them in the lurch without a backward glance when it was convenient? I realize they have spent almost as much time squabbling with each other as fighting designated assorted non-Kurdish oppressors (and battling whoever the US says we need a hand with, in exchange for money to live on and arms with which to conduct the battles), but our behavior vis a vis the Kurds is equally notable, or notorious, at this point. Our word is as good as our bond for as long as we feel that's the case. On the other hand we've long demonstrated that our alliances with them fall short of being willing to press for a Kurdish state.

    The question I hope someone in the US military is asking is whether we will require the assistance of Kurdish groups in the Middle East at any time again in the near future. If so, Trump's indicated quick exit may not be the best way for the US and the Kurdish fighters to part company in the Syrian conflict. But if it's Russia calling Trump's shots on this gig, our future relationship with Kurds is not even in Putin's view of how to resolve the Syrian situation. Erdogan, Putin and Assad all see the Kurds the same way, as instigators of trouble. They'll all be happy to see the USA leave the Syrian conflict. Not sure what Netanyahu would think if we departed abruptly. Nature does abhor a vacuum.
     
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  6. Solomani thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I'm fine with it too, if POTUS wasn't such a waffle-cake.


    You know it only takes one rich Saudi Prince to write a fat check to Trump International, and then suddenly…. "I the President of the United States, have decided to re-commit 25,000 troops to bolster our noble efforts in Syria. Oh, and we're also going to invade Iran if they don't get their act together."

    Saudi Crown Prince Says U.S. Troops Should Stay In Syria
     
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    All the local guys see the Kurds as trouble and the US from thousands of miles away gets in to support them. It’s a civil war and the what’s the US doing there when it has less moral right than the other parties there. No wonder the US is hated and accused of meddling in domestic affairs.
     
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    Good idea. What is a waffle cake?

    Edit: Googled it out. I guess you could make a cake out of any wheat based product.
     
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    Dude, Turkey is a member of NATO. They're also scheduled to receive 5th gen F-35 fighters from Lockheed. Why do you want rebels to shoot down a member of NATO?
     
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    So Lockheed can sell them some more replacement jets.

    *duh* do we need to explain everything for you :p

    NATO or not, Turkey is (and was from the start when they kinda supported IS) on the wrong side here and the only reason they are still considered "allies" is because they are a bigger part in the political puzzle of the middle east then the Kurds.
     
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    Doesn't Trump's statement that we're going to leave Syria soon fall under the category of tipping off the enemy, something he criticized Obama for doing? It may cause them to change their near-term plans if they know we are leaving soon, whatever that means in Trumpworld.
     
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    Depends if anyone actually believes what Trump said.
     
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    Doesn't matter at this point. Putin has already inserted permanent military bases in Syria to guarantee Assad stays in power. The US and Russia will never have a direct conflict, so there's no point in trying to win by rebel proxy anymore, since Putin ruined Obama's plans.
     
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    I was commenting on Trump's blatant hypocrisy about announcing military plans in advance and somehow Obama is involved.o_O
     

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