Trump - The job whisperer

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  1. tshrimp macrumors 6502

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    All we here from the safe space crowd is continual complaining how bad Trump is. So how is he doing on the job front?

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...-trump-loud-and-clear-to-tune-1-29m-jobs.html

    1. 1.29 million jobs have been created since he took office
    2. unemployment rate 4.3%
    3. Toyota and Mazda investing in factories
    4. Foxconn to build factory in Wisconsin
    5. Five of the six months since taking office, the economy has generated north of 200K jobs

    I have been out of the loop for a while, so if this has already been posted, my apologies.
    If not, enjoy the read.
     
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    When Obama took office, in Jan. 2009 the U.S. economy bled 793,000 jobs. By the end of 2016, the U.S. economy had enjoyed multiple years of continuous job growth, rising up to 344,000 jobs gained in May 2015.

    By the end of his term, more than 10,479,000 jobs had been created at an average of 1,310,000 per year.

    (Note this average includes his first year, in which the economic free fall of the Bush administration knocked out more than 5 million jobs. The median number of jobs was closer to 1.6 million per year.)

    In fact, during this same time period last year, the U.S. economy created 1.37 million jobs, meaning that Trump "the job whisper" is about 6 percent down YTY.

    And, it's important to note that the levers a President can pull are highly limited and that for whatever happy talk the Trump administration gives about U.S. economic decisions, a great number of those, like factories, were made months, if not years in advance.

    Economies are complicated, but the reality is that the Obama administration helped usher in a massive economic turnaround and never got the credit for it.

    For some historical context, under the Clinton administration, the U.S. economy gained an average of 242,000 jobs per month.

    Under the Bush administration, the U.S. economy gained an average of 22,000 jobs per month.

    Under the Obama administration, the U.S. economy gained an average of 109,000 jobs per month.

    So far, Trump is averaging 108,000 jobs per month.
     
  3. SoggyCheese macrumors regular

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    You could have put an armadillo in the Oval Office in January and all of that would have still happened at this stage.

    Trump is beyond terrible. The man narrowly bought his way out of a fraud trial where he would most definitely have been found guilty, surrounds himself with known political extremists, and is on record as admitting to sexual assault.

    And you seriously want everyone to pretend he's great because he hasn't yet messed up the economic momentum he inherited? Please.
     
  4. noekozz macrumors 6502a

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    The Job market is about the only real positive thing going for Trump, outside of that realm it's a complete cluster f*#k. And to further add, 2 out of the five points are hypothetical at this point, Toyota & Mazda have had factories here for years, in fact some Mazda plants are shared with Ford.
     
  5. oneMadRssn macrumors 68040

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    Trump said the unemployment rate was 20, 30, some say even 40 percent. Was he lying?
    Trump said the new jobs being added don't matter because they aren't good jobs. Was he lying?
    Trump said he would focus on bringing back coal jobs. Are they back?
     
  6. rjohnstone macrumors 68040

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    All good questions.

    1. Depends on how you define the unemployed. Many simply left the work force and are no longer counted in the unemployment numbers. That exact number is not really known, so they can only speculate.
    2. Depends on who is defining what a "good job" is.
    3. Yes and no. Some came back, but not of any real significance.
     
  7. hulugu macrumors 68000

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    Even in coal jobs, Trump is underperforming.

    The average number of jobs in the coal industry in the first six months of 2016 was 51,400. The average under Trump is 50,450, or down about 1.6 percent.
    --- Post Merged, Aug 7, 2017 ---
    Right. There's a different metric, but notice that Trump is now using a metric he once attacked to prove he's doing well. It's suspect.
     
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    If you believe the president can affect the economy six months into his presidency, then you don't understand economics. The stock market and other speculative indexes, sure but the economy no.
     
  10. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    the trump jobs that will be added will be the ones that cutting regulations and that help employees it seems. thats places like mcdonalds and such.
     
  11. vrDrew macrumors 65816

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    The real question is: How long till Trump and the Republicans throw us into disaster?

    Some economists are thinking this fall.

    The debt-ceiling crisis is real

    Remember: This is the same Trump that campaigned on the notion that "smart" debtors don't pay their creditors, so they can negotiate a "discount."

    That might work OK if you are busy running an airline or casino into the ground (getting rich in the process.) It won't work for the United States Government.
     
  12. oneMadRssn macrumors 68040

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    My point is that Trump is a hypocrite if he is going to praise himself for the the sub-5% unemployment when he was criticizing the same sub-5% unemployment as fake and not real less than a year ago.
     
  13. Gutwrench macrumors 65816

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    Nope, you've missed nothing. Despite the hysterical Left and doomsayers certain Trump would destroy baseball, hotdogs, apple pie, and Chevrolet within mere days of taking office so after the reports they've set their readiness condition to super double dog zebra saying even The Hildabeast or a taco sandwich could have posted the same results.
     
  14. Huntn macrumors G5

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    Praise the almighty Trump, with a twinkle in his eye he made it happen. PS, if you insist Supreme Leader gets credit, Obama at the beginning of his run as President had better numbers.
     
  15. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    and as usual republicans try to take credit where it is not due cause they are so desperate to get anything positive out of trump.
     
  16. hulugu macrumors 68000

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    Hah.

    This is an exact quote from the Mainstream Media newsletter.
     
  17. Gutwrench macrumors 65816

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    If Trump was sufficiently desperate he could just order the bombing of an aspirin factory.
     
  18. hulugu macrumors 68000

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    Why do you hate the troops?
     
  19. chown33 macrumors 604

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    You left out the armadillo option noted in post #3, although I suspect it would be outperformed by a taco sandwich.
     
  20. GermanSuplex macrumors 6502a

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    Good job numbers are always welcome. I didn't like when the right (including Trump as recent as December - the month before he took office) wrote them off as fake.

    I hope the numbers remain steady.

    However, for the last 10 years, things like the economy's overall outlook and Wall Street numbers are really skewed; fewer and fewer people are doing better and better at the expense of the middle class. They should base the economic outlook on some sort of
    figure derived from the true middle class. To be clear, this isn't a Trump issue, it's a Washington issue. Tax reform will solve all of this.
     
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  22. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    no I think he would requite all his employees to eat at KFC.
     
  23. IronWaffle macrumors 6502

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    Trump can whisper? I've only heard him whine, yowl, and faux-roar his dissembling, half-digested word farts.

    Sorry to willfully misinterpret the subject. Seemed the thing to do in this thread. Carry on. #MAGA2020

    Fore!
     
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    All thanks to President Obama!
     
  25. Chew Toy McCoy macrumors regular

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    Average household income should be the only number we are looking at. Last I heard over half of American households make less than 30k a year. Pathetic for the richest country on earth. If you find anything to dispute that please post.
     

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