Trump University Preyed on Elderly and Uneducated

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  1. Robisan macrumors 6502

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    I'm sorry, but you have to be a completely morally vulgar sociopath to have a net worth of $10 billion and still feel the need to scam ordinary people and seniors out of their money for personal gain. It's just utterly breathtaking and repulsive.

    ...adding, meanwhile Bill Clinton raises money for his foundation to fund global charitable projects and he's the one they point at as "corrupt." smdh
     
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    Right, but even within that sociopathic subset, laws still apply. As they were not an accredited learning institution, "Trump University" was operating illegally and as a fraudulent organization in the state of New York from the very beginning.
     
  3. rdowns thread starter macrumors Penryn

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    Trump doesn't have anywhere near $10 billion. Billionaires don't try to sell scam "universities", multi-level marketing schemes, steaks, water, mattresses and assorted other sundry items.
     
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    You have no need to apologize.
     
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    People who "attended" Trump U are the same greedy fools who spend thousands on real estate seminars and believe they will get rich flipping houses.
     
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    Link?
     
  7. NT1440 macrumors G5

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    Don't get me wrong, I agree completely. That said, our justice system has a habit of being scared off by enough high priced lawyers, so I expect the media to make hay out of this, while at the court level at worst a settlement that does not acknowledge wrongdoing.
     
  8. Robisan macrumors 6502

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    Right. Blame the victims, absolve the perps. Sleep well?
     
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    When a degenerate gambler loses the kid college fund in Vegas, do you hold the casino responsible?
     
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    This is the neo-feudalist's mantra.
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    If the casino is cheating, if they are misleading in a deliberate and illegal manner, of course I would.

    As practicing neo-feudalist, I fully understand why you would not.

    Kiss the ring. Pray for scraps.
     
  11. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    Free market capitalism and market efficiency at its best. That magical private sector again (not directed at you jkcerda, just some of the people here believe that free markets always produce the best solutions to a problem).
     
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    Casinos don't promise you'll win one million dollars. They offer you an extremely remote mathematical possibility that you will win one million dollars. If you believe that is misleading...well, that word doesn't mean what you think it means.
     
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    So, it's okay that Trump University was a multi-level marketing scam? Because, its victims are "greedy fools?"

    Not sure on the legal code, but I'm pretty sure that there isn't a loophole for that.
     
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    No, but his point is valid. It's being taken advantage of, or what's easily worse. Most for-profit schools will use any spin to bring in people and never take responsibility for their actions. It's never the supply side's fault.
     
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    No different than Amway. If you buy into any multi-level marketing business then you are a greedy fool looking to make an easy buck.
     
  16. Robisan macrumors 6502

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    Casino games have clearly stated odds of payout. The state gaming commission monitors/regulates slots and casino management. It's not a scam if there is complete transparency and truthfulness about the expected ROI.
     
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    But you walk into a casino knowing full well that you only have a small chance to hit it big. When you sign up for a school, paying anywhere between $5,000 to $35,000, you expect them to honor their advertisements, and provide you what they've stated as your moneys worth.

    I can't believe I'm having to explain what fraud is, and why it's illegal to a bunch of grown ass people...
     
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    So Harvard Business School should guarantee an ROI? What tuition multiple return should they promise?
     
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    Harvard doesn't get you to pay all your tuition up front, then gives you nothing in return but a pat on the ass, and a good luck as you walk out the door.
     
  20. mildocjr macrumors 65816

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    Does this mean that Trump is getting votes from the elderly and uneducated... (Grabs popcorn)
     
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    Vote for Bernie and Trump University will be free for everyone.
     
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    AND DEFLECTION!
     
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    deflection is already free, comes on automatically when people learn the person has a "D" or an "R" that they support :p
     
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    drrrrr
     
  25. Robisan macrumors 6502

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    D'oh! You drew the entirely wrong conclusion. I explained that the certainty of odds at a casino is a bad analogy, NOT that all investments, legit or illegit, should have certainty of odds.

    Of course there's no guarantee of ROI on a HBS education, however there's an aggregate track record of prior graduates that shows a high likelihood of positive ROI. And HBS delivers on its promise w/r/t the quality of people teaching its courses. The Trump U scam has NONE of that.
     

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