Trump warns of impending huge benefit to the American people

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Chew Toy McCoy

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Ugh, you people and your demand for links. Added to the OP.

I'm not denying establishment politicians from both sides of the isle are against this, but the ball is currently in the Republican's court. It's absurd our government of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich are terrified of something that would benefit most American people.
 

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Ugh, you people and your demand for links. Added to the OP.

I'm not denying establishment politicians from both sides of the isle are against this, but the ball is currently in the Republican's court. It's absurd our government of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich are terrified of something that would benefit most American people.
Although biased as ****, Moore's Sicko explains very well why.
 

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Clinton is pretty much irrelevant in US politics now. And there is no real option other than single payer that will be sustainable.
Clinton is still a menace to American progressives because the Clinton Crime family is still seated at the table of DNC politics...because fund raising (aka bribes).

You are correct however. Single payer is also the ultimate purity test for any person running for political office.

Don't support single payer? Go to hell, never supporting you. I'd rather Trump win 12 consecutive terms than support one single corporatist DNC sell out. Stupid hurts, and the DNC will learn this one way or the other.
 
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Clinton is pretty much irrelevant in US politics now.
Clinton is very relevant in US politics now. She (and her husband) have done an enormous amount of work supporting and maintaining the Democratic party itself, so the party does owe her something. She's also got a long-term base of voter support and dedicated hard-core activists; and truly, the guy currently occupying the Oval Office is there only because he has a small group of dedicated hard-core activists propping him up, even while his approval ratings amongst the general public are swirling down the toilet...

I personally believe she can be more successful at this point in other arenas than actually holding public office; but she's paid her dues and then some, if she wants to go one more round...

And there is no real option other than single payer that will be sustainable.
Amen. It's just a little crazy to keep trying things that obviously won't work, when you can simply look around at dozens of other countries whose health care system does work...
 
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CA seems to be willing to try it.
Like so many other things the people want it but the people we put in office to represent the people refuse to do that job. They should just stop this sham of a democracy and only allow lobbyists and rich donors to vote. I mean seriously, suddenly Democrats are concerned about more taxes and fiscal responsibility? I think not. They are constantly slapping new taxes on everything in this state and I lost track of how many times the voters actually approved the taxes.

The other thing that is screwing CA Democrats right now is the superdelegates who it seems their only current purpose is to make sure a Progressive doesn't get in office. Democrats know how to battle Republicans. They don't want to battle a Progressive because it fully exposes their corruption.
 
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Forgive him his obsession, it's alive and thriving. :rolleyes:
going to laugh when she ends up being your 2020 nominee :D

Like so many other things the people want it but the people we put in office to represent the people refuse to do that job. They should just stop this sham of a democracy and only allow lobbyists and rich donors to vote. I mean seriously, suddenly Democrats are concerned about more taxes and fiscal responsibility? I think not. They are constantly slapping new taxes on everything in this state and I lost track of how many times the voters actually approved the taxes.

The other thing that is screwing CA Democrats right now is the superdelegates who it seems their only current purpose is to make sure a Progressive doesn't get in office. Democrats know how to battle Republicans. They don't want to battle a Progressive because it fully exposes their corruption.
democrats & republicans are the left & right wing of the same bird. neither has the interest of the people in their mind.
 
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er, a link would be nice. single payer? nah, BOTH democrats & republicans are deep in the pockets of the HC insurance industry.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-single-payer-health-care-will-never-ever-happen/
I would like to see a system where there is a single-processor. One set of forms for Dr.'s and hospitals. Then each insurance company covers what they choose or each individual can choose which coverage options they want.

When compared to the auto insurance industry, the HC insurance industry makes no sense. I can't buy a catastrophic only policy that only covers major issues like heat attacks cancer etc, but I can drive a POS 20 year old car with 20/40/10 coverage and be legal. Those 20/40/10 limits aren't going to cover diddly if I hit an $80K Land Rover full of kids. So we let people drive around with insufficient auto insurance, but draw the line at letting them buy "insufficient" health insurance. Makes no sense since as one only affects ME and the other can affect many unrelated people.
 

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I would like to see a system where there is a single-processor. One set of forms for Dr.'s and hospitals. Then each insurance company covers what they choose or each individual can choose which coverage options they want.

When compared to the auto insurance industry, the HC insurance industry makes no sense. I can't buy a catastrophic only policy that only covers major issues like heat attacks cancer etc, but I can drive a POS 20 year old car with 20/40/10 coverage and be legal. Those 20/40/10 limits aren't going to cover diddly if I hit an $80K Land Rover full of kids. So we let people drive around with insufficient auto insurance, but draw the line at letting them buy "insufficient" health insurance. Makes no sense since as one only affects ME and the other can affect many unrelated people.
car insurance should not be mandated...................gazillion people don't buy it here in CA. it's a mess any way you slice it.
 

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car insurance should not be mandated...................gazillion people don't buy it here in CA. it's a mess any way you slice it.
With the level of minimum limits in most states, I would agree that the mandate has become useless.