TSA doesn't think people from D.C. are citizens.

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A TSA agent at the Orlando International Airport demanded to see the passport of Justin Gray, a Washington, D.C., correspondent for central Florida's WFTV news. According to WFTV, the agent was not familiar with the District of Columbia, and therefore could not accept Gray's D.C. driver's license as a valid form of ID.

. @TSA Agent in Orlando never heard of "District of Columbia." Demanded passport because he didn't believe my drivers license was from US!?

— Justin Gray (@grayjustin) July 12, 2014

Fortunately, Gray was able to pass through security, ultimately notifying the supervisor on duty of the odd problem.

According to a later tweet from Gray, the TSA has responded by showing every Orlando agent a picture of a D.C. license.

Perhaps surprisingly, this wasn't an isolated incident. In February, a TSA agent in Phoenix delayed a D.C. resident because the traveler couldn't present a "state-issued" ID.

At the time, a TSA representative told The Huffington Post that licenses from Washington, D.C., should pose no problem for its agents: "A valid Washington, D.C., driver's license is an acceptable form of identification at all TSA checkpoints. When issues arise at the checkpoint, TSA officers work to make sure facts are gathered and quickly resolved to avoid future confusion."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/15/tsa-agent-dc-license-passport_n_5588735.html?ir=Media

And we trust these people to keep us safe?:eek::confused:
 

bradl

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Read about this earlier on FlightAware.

After passing the checkpoint, he should have turned back and said as a friendly reminder, "If you touch my junk, I'll have you arrested."

It isn't too early for that, is it? :D

BL.
 

aerok

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And everyone has a passport? Never being out of the country I don't have one.
That's true but I do so I just bring it to avoid these kind of confusions.

Not saying what happened is right, all Americans should know be able to name all states, especialy TSA
 

ucfgrad93

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I have a passport, but never take it when I am traveling domestically. Seems like the TSA should improve their training or hire more qualified people.
 

edk99

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And we trust these people to keep us safe?:eek::confused:
Exactly. This is one reason why airports are kicking them out. Sanford Airport down the street from Orlando Airport is replacing TSA with a private security firm in a few months. Also at Orlando Airport is looking into the same option of replacing them with a private company.

Fate of TSA is uncertain at Orlando International

Despite a more than yearlong review, Orlando International Airport officials are several months away from deciding whether they want to hire private guards to replace the federal Transportation Security Administration officers running passenger checkpoints.

Bottom line: TSA's fate still remains uncertain, said Orlando International vice chairman Dean Asher, who leads a 10-member committee that has been studying TSA and its dealings with travelers since March 2013.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-tsa-private-security-20140628,0,4128835.story
 

MacNut

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So one agent being dumb equates to "the TSA doesn't think people from D.C. are citizens"?

Hyperbole much?
It happened twice! Seriously, why are we putting these people in charge of airport security. Everyone is so worried about a phone exploding but we can't get people that know where Washington D.C. is?

Perhaps surprisingly, this wasn't an isolated incident. In February, a TSA agent in Phoenix delayed a D.C. resident because the traveler couldn't present a "state-issued" ID.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Can you work weekends and show up on time?

YES.

Good, your hired.

Here's my resume and references.

Whatever, you keep that, show up tomorrow at 6am sharp.
 

VulchR

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The solution is simple: Time for DC to become a state, allowing the land on which government buildings are located to be federal reserves not under the city's jurisdiction.
 

samiwas

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It happened twice! Seriously, why are we putting these people in charge of airport security. Everyone is so worried about a phone exploding but we can't get people that know where Washington D.C. is?
Twice!! We're up to 4 thousandths of 1%! AHHHHHHH!!!

Maybe this is a wakeup call that the cutting of education budgets by a certain sector of our political system actually has consequences. People are becoming so dumb they don't even know all of the parts of our own country.
 

Southern Dad

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Actually, it happens more often than you think. I was flying from ATL to JKF a few weeks ago. A elderly man and his wife had Puerto Rican Driver's Licenses. The TSA agent was really giving them a hard time because they had American Passports with "foreign" driver's licenses. To make matters worse, they didn't speak English.

The TSA agent finally after getting information over a telephone let them pass but not before making several comments that if you are going to carry an American passport you should know English.

This isn't the first time that I've seen TSA really having a problem with something unusual. Once I was traveling in uniform with another military officer. When we arrived at JFK from Germany, the TSA wanted to see his passport in addition to his military identification. He didn't have one, nor was he required to have one. They detained him for over an hour because although he is an American citizen, he was born in Viet Nam.
 

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Well, if TSA regulations require them to see a "state-issued ID," it sounds more like a poorly-written policy than a dumb agent, although having seen lots of behind-the-scenes with TSA I suspect it's a healthy dose of both.
 

Southern Dad

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Well, if TSA regulations require them to see a "state-issued ID," it sounds more like a poorly-written policy than a dumb agent, although having seen lots of behind-the-scenes with TSA I suspect it's a healthy dose of both.
The driver's licenses issued by the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa and the US Virgin Islands are considered to be State ID's. Keep in mind that Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Maryland and Kentucky are commonwealths. Licenses from Puerto Rico say "Commonwealth of Puerto Rico" and are in English and Spanish. Just because it doesn't have a star on the flag doesn't mean that the District of Columbia doesn't have state identity documents.
 

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Keep in mind that Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Maryland and Kentucky are commonwealths.
Only in their own minds. The US sees them as states, as do the other states.

Just because it doesn't have a star on the flag doesn't mean that the District of Columbia doesn't have state identity documents.
Hey, I'm not the one you have to convince - like I said, this falls on the TSA and its employees, as far as I'm concerned.
 

Southern Dad

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Only in their own minds. The US sees them as states, as do the other states.

Hey, I'm not the one you have to convince - like I said, this falls on the TSA and its employees, as far as I'm concerned.
It's pretty sad. When I was a kid we actually took Geography in school. We had to memorize the states and their capitals. We took American History where we learned all about how each state and territory joined the USA. Those days are gone. Now schools teach two subjects… Math and Reading Comprehension. Oh, they have a section called History but when they give you a paragraph to read about George Washington, then ask you a couple questions about the paragraph, that isn reading comprehension not history.
 

aerok

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It's pretty sad. When I was a kid we actually took Geography in school. We had to memorize the states and their capitals. We took American History where we learned all about how each state and territory joined the USA. Those days are gone. Now schools teach two subjects… Math and Reading Comprehension. Oh, they have a section called History but when they give you a paragraph to read about George Washington, then ask you a couple questions about the paragraph, that isn reading comprehension not history.
I really don't get that, history and geography are so important. Even more so than math in my opinion.
 

Southern Dad

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I really don't get that, history and geography are so important. Even more so than math in my opinion.
Not long ago, I had a college graduate who was trying to find a clerk's office at the Capitol. She searched in Both Dallas and Houston before telling me he didn't have an office. Then she rolled her eyes when I called Austin and got his number in seconds. Got to love today's graduates.

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What's the problem? It's not like DC residents have the same voting rights as real citizens anyway...:rolleyes:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Washington,_D.C._license_plate.JPG
 

aerok

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Not long ago, I had a college graduate who was trying to find a clerk's office at the Capitol. She searched in Both Dallas and Houston before telling me he didn't have an office. Then she rolled her eyes when I called Austin and got his number in seconds. Got to love today's graduates.


I know so many people that can't find Alaska on a map... :(