Turkey complains about U.S. Soldiers wearing Kurdish patches so Obama punishes U.S. Soldiers

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by aaronvan, May 27, 2016.

  1. aaronvan Suspended

    aaronvan

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2011
    Location:
    República Cascadia
    #1
    Up until now, US Special Forces teams always wear insignia of the locale forces they're assisting.

    Apology to follow?

    http://www.latimes.com/la-fg-turkey-us-soldiers-20160527-snap-story.html
     
  2. Meister Suspended

    Meister

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2013
    #2
    I wonder how much more damage he can manage to inflict before he has to leave office.
     
  3. lowendlinux Contributor

    lowendlinux

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2014
    Location:
    North Country (way upstate NY)
    #3
    The corrective action will be hey dumba$$ don't get your picture taken again
     
  4. thermodynamic Suspended

    thermodynamic

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Location:
    USA
  5. unlinked macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2010
    Location:
    Ireland
    #5
    Can't imagine why the Turks would be a bit iffy on US special forces wearing the insignia of groups affiliated with separatist terrorists.
     
  6. Jess13 Suspended

    Jess13

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2013
    #6

    Obama and Hillary with Nato partners destroyed Libya, causing the refugee crisis. They are responsible for the thousands of men, women and children who have died by drowning in the Mediterranean, trying to flee from terrorists Obama has helped to install. Nearly 600 just died, one day after they left from a Libyan port.

    More Than 700 Feared Dead in Recent Mediterranean Crossings

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/05/29/world/europe/ap-eu-europe-migrants.html
    Meister is correct; you are not. Obama has caused so much death, suffering, damage, crises, destruction, he’s one of the worst humans alive on the planet today and easily one of the all-time worst presidents ever.
     
  7. Snoopy4 macrumors 6502a

    Snoopy4

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2014
    #7
    Apparently not enough. Dude is obsessed with his collegiate world view he's been carrying around since his dope smoking days. Oh the burdens of Obama! :rolleyes:
     
  8. jkcerda macrumors 6502

    jkcerda

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2013
    Location:
    Criminal Mexi Midget
    #8
    Democrats don't really care about the genocide of the displacement. It's all good and "humanitarian" when a democrat does it.
     
  9. sim667 macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2010
    #9
    Unsurprisiginly I think MR members are oversimplifying the issue.

    Turkey sees YPG as an extension of the PKK (The PKK are terrorists, declared so additionally by the UN and the US).

    The UN and the US don't recognise the YPG as an extension of the PKK (rightly or wrongly, I don't know).

    But as far as Turkey is concerned the US is supporting terrorists, and wearing insignia of their enemy.
     
  10. juanm, May 31, 2016
    Last edited: May 31, 2016

    juanm macrumors 65816

    juanm

    Joined:
    May 1, 2006
    Location:
    Fury 161
    #10
    Yet the ones actively helping Daesh until not long ago were the turks (or rather, Erdogan's government). Without them there's a fair chance IS would have already been defeated in Syria (there would still be a civil war between the regime and the other various factions)
     
  11. sim667 macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2010
    #11
    There's allegations, but no confirmations as far as I'm aware?

    I've also seen allegations that Israeli soldiers are fighting alongside ISIS soldiers...... I think a lot of these allegations need to be taken with handfuls of salt until there's some proper reputable evidence.
     
  12. juanm macrumors 65816

    juanm

    Joined:
    May 1, 2006
    Location:
    Fury 161
    #12
    Being a war zone, it's hard to establish an investigation, but what's clear is that Turkey has done everything (politically and otherwise) to prevent the closure of the Jarabulus corridor, in effect maintaining a vital link to ISIS.

    It's also been confirmed by numerous western soldiers who have been fighting in the conflict.
     
  13. mrkramer macrumors 603

    mrkramer

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2006
    Location:
    Somewhere
    #13
    So what's the difference between US soldiers doing this, and the Russian soldiers trying to blend in with rebels in Eastern Ukraine? I seem to remember us getting upset at that one...
     
  14. juanm macrumors 65816

    juanm

    Joined:
    May 1, 2006
    Location:
    Fury 161
    #14
    On paper, not much. That said, the YPG shouldn't be confused with the "Rebels". There are so many factions in the Syrian war that even naming them has become complicated. The Rebels are now often associated with Islamist rebels, which the US doesn't want to support. It's not a two sided war, far from it.
    If the US want to fight against ISIS, their best bet is what they are doing: helping the YPG/SDF.
     
  15. mrkramer macrumors 603

    mrkramer

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2006
    Location:
    Somewhere
    #15
    So are you saying that it wasn't ok for the Russians in Ukraine because that was a two sided war, but because Syria is a multi-front war it is ok for us to pretend to be part of one of the rebel groups.
     
  16. juanm macrumors 65816

    juanm

    Joined:
    May 1, 2006
    Location:
    Fury 161
    #16
    No. You asked for a difference, and I said "not much", and mentioned how tricky it is to use the word "rebels" in Syria.

    Both cases are military intervention in a foreign country.
     
  17. Technarchy macrumors 604

    Technarchy

    Joined:
    May 21, 2012
    #17
    Too much tacticool.

    Let's play find the SF when done closer to the metal...

    [​IMG]
     
  18. samiwas macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2006
    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
    #18
    Strange how literally most of the first world disagrees with you.
     
  19. Jess13, May 31, 2016
    Last edited: May 31, 2016

    Jess13 Suspended

    Jess13

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2013
    #19
    It seems that society as a whole, has become increasingly less knowledgable in general. (Surprising, considering we have instant access to more information than at any time in human history.) Obama, for example, has record high approval among Democratic voters in the United States, which is laughable. I maintain it is a form of Stockholm Syndrome, because Obama has been a complete failure and disaster, including continuing and expanding most of the Bush administration’s worst crimes against Americans and the world, that I guarantee the majority of those pro-Obama Democrats constantly feigned outrage over during the Bush-era yet mindlessly give Obama a free pass because... “It’s our team doing it so it’s okay now.” And not only has Obama continued and expanded Bush’s crimes, Obama has protected Bush for all his crimes. Obama is one of the all-time worst presidents in U.S. history, and is one of the most evil humans alive on the planet today. **** Obama!

     
  20. HEK Suspended

    HEK

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2013
    #20
    Oops, looks like the facts don't back up the anti Obama opinion and diatribe. Oh well, just ignore the facts and do what faux news does, report falsehoods and some people will believe it anyways if you repeat it often enough.
     
  21. caesarp macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2012
    #21
    Dude. Why do your post titles distort and lie. OBama did nothing about this. The article says this:

    "Given Turkey's sensitivities about the U.S. reliance on Kurdish forces in the battle against Islamic State in Syria, the personnel were told to remove the patches. Warren said he knew of no additional reprimand or other disciplinary action."

    Your posts are BS.
     
  22. Robisan macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2014
    #22
    Source for "punishes" please.

    The article only says "corrective action" was taken. That could mean simply removing the patches.

    Or is this yet another misleading and false thread title from @aaronvan?
     
  23. sim667 macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2010
    #23
    As someone not from the US, I can honestly say a lot of consensus seems to be that he's been one of the most tolerable American Presidents you've had in years.

    But if we're honest, after Bush, a chihuahua as POTUS would have been preferable.
     
  24. aaronvan thread starter Suspended

    aaronvan

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2011
    Location:
    República Cascadia
    #24
    Of course that's the international view. Obama bows and apologizes to every foreigner he meets.
     
  25. caesarp macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2012
    #25
    No, sim667 is right. Someone who is removed from the bubble of Fox news and right wing talk radio sees reality as it really is. Generally its people in the U.S. (who can't articulate why, with specific facts and rational reasons) hate Obama. All they say is "Obama hates America" or "Obama is a muslim". But when you press them for specifics, they really can't come up with specifically why they don't like him, with real facts and details.

    Frankly, how anyone doesn't see that Obama is a moderate, reasoned and intelligent politician, doing the best he can with an obstructionist right-wing congress (that actually admitted to hatching a plan to block anything he tried to do), stuns me.

    Is he perfect - no. But he certainly hasn't done anything to cause hate.
     

Share This Page