Turkey to start operations/invasion/assault in Syria

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  1. yaxomoxay macrumors 68040

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    Still developing, but I don't see this end up well.

    Turkey may start new Syria operation at any moment, Erdogan says https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-erdogan-idUSKBN1OG1DZ

    Turkey Threatens Incursion Into Syria, Raising U.S. Concerns https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/14/world/middleeast/turkey-threatens-new-incursion-into-syria.html

    Turkey Threatens Incursion Into Syria, Raising U.S. Concerns
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/14/world/middleeast/turkey-threatens-new-incursion-into-syria.html
     
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    I’ve always said I’ll give him credit when it’s due. This would be a big win for him in my mind, but a lot of establishment warmongering politicians will hate it.
     
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    hence the reason the neocons all sided with Hillary during the elections, but liberals oddly enough thought it was a win when they did:rolleyes:
     
  6. yaxomoxay thread starter macrumors 68040

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    GREAT NEWS!!!
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    We haven't invaded a new country in two years, it's certainly some sort of record. I am just afraid of what the US will unleash in 2021/2025 since some people will want their $$$.
     
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    Not so sure I want the Kurds left at the hands of the Syrians and Turks, but in general our purpose in Syria was to crush ISIS and we and others did that. Return our troops, but use maximum diplomatic power to keep the local powers from massacring our Kurdish allies.
     
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    If I have to be honest, I don't see any way to save the Kurdish population from being slaughtered without a military intervention. Turkey is on its way to conquest part of Syria and Northern Iraq, and Erdogan won't stop.
    Hopefully something behind the scenes is happening to save the Kurds...
     
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    We asked them to get involved in Syria. If we abandon them nobody will ever trust the US again. But Trump won't care...
     
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    honestly don't care.
     
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    The Syrian Kurds ( and their Arab allies ) abandoned after doing all the heavy lifting in the defeat of Daesh. The knew they they couldn't depend on the U.S. but even so leaving them at the mercy of the vile Turkish regime is shameful.
     
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    It was a botched idea from the beginning. Are you really willing to go against Syria (and coalition) and Turkey (and coalition) at the same time? Let's just admit the ***** mistake, and save our guys.
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    Then get after the Turkish for genocide, and destroy them. Half-assed solution is NOT a solution.
     
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    How about staying with the Kurds and fulfilling promises made.Turkey isn't going to push further into Syria if it means confronting the U.S. military and Assad vile though he is is not stupid enough to attack the Kurds.
    Perfidious Albion was the historical benchmark for untrustworthiness but recent events show the U.S. is every bit as bad.
     
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    Enforce a no-fly/no-attack zone to allow the Kurds to retreat to Kurdish provinces in Iraq. Provide them with medical and infrastructure support there. At least provide for their physical safety, if not their ambition for nationhood.

    Typical...
     
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    why is it our fault they trusted the U.S with the history the U.S has? play stupid games.............
     
  16. yaxomoxay thread starter macrumors 68040

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    The concern is understandable, but you certainly realize that 2,000 troops (or even 10,000) in an area with a civil war, different coalitions, an invading country (Turkey) and basically two wars going on at the same time are... hostages. And they WILL die if left there.

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    On which authority? What if the Turkish regime doesn't wait?

    See above. Turkey is invading. Syria is going after them (with Russia). Turkey is not waiting for the type of relief you ask for. It's too late. Too ***** damn late.
     
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    Why would the Syrian Kurds want to go to Iraq? Rojava is their home and they are at odds with the authoritarian Iraqi Kurdish regime. Assad if he does win will give autonomy to Rojava inside a greater Syria and that's what they want.
     
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    It is our fault because we encouraged them to become involved in Syria, rather like we encouraged the non-communist Cambodia to become involved in Vietnam. You do remember what happened after that, right? (Hint: Killing Fields)
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    If that works out that would be great. I imagine that Assad might even enjoy sticking it to Turkey...
     
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    If the **** hits the fan let the EU step in.
     
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    if they did not learn to NOT trust us after Cambodia then again that is THEIR fault......
     
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    A country without allies does not do well, and the US is hemorrhaging allies.
     
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    good, hopefully we will stop bombing the crap out of other nations soon because of it.
     
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