Turkish Police Seize Weapons Grade Uranium


krossfyter

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i thought they did not know yet wither it was weapons grade or naturally occuring uranium. anyways... they are suppose to find out Monday whats up. 5 million dollars worth if it is the real deal. 35 pounds of it too... the bomb dropped on hiroshima was 55 pounds of uranium.
 

Mr. Anderson

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who's saying grams? That amount of uranium wouldn't amount to much, 33 pounds is much more likely. And if that had made its way to Iraq, bastards. Who knows if this is just one of many shipments....

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mischief

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poop.

I suppose this means we'll have to blast the living **** outta everything from Istanbul to Ethiopia to halt this madness. This is proof that the whole Nuclear Deterrant strategy wasn't worth the money: It just distracted the world from seeing how bad the proliferation problem really seems to be. I'll be hiding on a south Pacific island for a few years if anybody needs me......
 

Wash!!

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The problem is religions

See the world since the beging of of recorded history is been always been kill everybody that does not belive in "my" religion.

The chatolics hate the protestant, and jewish at the same token the muslan hate everydoby "DAMM those infidels" [sarcasem}

In south america for sample the Colombias civil war they have was started by the mormons (speling?) and it has turn into protect the Drug trade that the US and Europe keep buying.

So I say just say "borron y cuenta nueva" it means purge everything and star again.
give a space shutle and supplies and I'll take my chances on Mars and watch the earht blow up from there.

peace
 

big

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Unfortunatly God promised he'd never wipe out the Earth again, I guess he knew we'd do it our selves

oh- and the meek shall inherit the Earth
 

Hemingray

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Originally posted by Wash!!
See the world since the beging of of recorded history is been always been kill everybody that does not belive in "my" religion.
Some religions that did so way back when have matured/evolved (depending on how you look at it) and no longer find it necessary to kill the "heathens" that don't happen to believe what they do. Here in the U.S. you are much less likely to see someone die for their beliefs than in parts of China or Afghanistan, for example.

We are extremely fortunate.
 

TMay

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...here's the CNN followup story...

"About out blasting you off the face of the earth for transporting fissile material".
"Sorry, our mistake".

Hardly anybody gets the story right early on. Give it a good 24 hours for some decent journalists to sort it out.

In this case it was 5 grams of material, not even known if it was weapons grade, or even uranium ore.

They did let the idiots go, (probably with little tiny transmitters on them).
 

job

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I thought it was interesting that the picture of the evidence showed the words "Made in W. Germany" on the side of the container..

Heh. How's that for irony..
 

Wash!!

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Still true now

Quote:
Hemingray
"Some religions that did so way back when have matured/evolved (depending on how you look at it) and no longer find it necessary to kill the "heathens" that don't happen to believe what they do. Here in the U.S. you are much less likely to see someone die for their beliefs than in parts of China or Afghanistan, for example.

We are extremely fortunate."

Yeah some have change but the bast mojority still think the same. And the US is turning more and more as the world police.
I'l just sit thight and wait for the space ship to land ;)

Ps How do you put quotes in replys?
 

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It looks like it was 140 grams, or 5 oz. They couldn't hold the idiots because of lack of evidence, so they let them go (what constitutes 'evidence'?) and they've since disappeared - imagine that.

And they're still trying to determine if it was weapons grade or not.

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job

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I'm wondering about the amount needed to make any sort of nuclear weapon, "dirty bombs" included.

How significant is 5 oz. in the process of bomb building? (Assuming naturally that it is weapons grade.)
 

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Originally posted by hitman
I'm wondering about the amount needed to make any sort of nuclear weapon, "dirty bombs" included.

How significant is 5 oz. in the process of bomb building? (Assuming naturally that it is weapons grade.)
You put 5 oz. of Plutonium in a dirty bomb, get the dust in the air and it would be a huge mess. Weapons grade plutonium, if inhaled, is death, quite simple. I'm not sure how much coverage you would get, and it would depend on the weather conditions and where the bomb went off, but it would be more than enough to shut a city down till it was cleaned up and plenty of deaths would be the result. However, the scare would probably have more effect than the actual bomb itself.

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Wash!!

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Originally posted by dukestreet


You put 5 oz. of Plutonium in a dirty bomb, get the dust in the air and it would be a huge mess. Weapons grade plutonium, if inhaled, is death, quite simple. I'm not sure how much coverage you would get, and it would depend on the weather conditions and where the bomb went off, but it would be more than enough to shut a city down till it was cleaned up and plenty of deaths would be the result. However, the scare would probably have more effect than the actual bomb itself.

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They don't need to make a dirty bomb to set off a scare look what happen in Oklahoma.
You could make a very powerful chemical acttack using common house hold cleaners, you just need to know what to mix and belive me they know how.

They are just waiting for the right moment to attack most likely a heartland city like Denver, Chicago, or the like just to prove that they can get to us any time or anywhere they want.
 

Backtothemac

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5 oz of weapons grade uranium would cause one hell of a messed up weekend somewhere. If it is not weapons grade it could still be used to poison a small water supply, or to create the appearance, fear factor of a dirty bomb explosion. In addition, it could be used for armor piercing cells. There are many applications for uranium.

This just goes to show everyone that the threat posed by the people is real. We have to be proactive with removing them from power. Once done, establish and maintain a peace.

To wait to handle the situation will sign the death certificates of millions of people.
 

oldMac

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Re: poop.

I'll be hiding on a south Pacific island for a few years if anybody needs me...... [/B]
Hey Mischief, you might want to check with some of the aspiring nuclear governments before choosing a specific "south pacific island". Those islands have a history of being great testing grounds. :)
 

job

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Has anyone considered the possibility of terrorist groups using super tankers filled with fertilizer as floating bombs?

You park something like that down here in Houston, at one of the largest fuel refining plants in the world... :eek:

Damn....
 

Wash!!

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Originally posted by hitman
Has anyone considered the possibility of terrorist groups using super tankers filled with fertilizer as floating bombs?

You park something like that down here in Houston, at one of the largest fuel refining plants in the world... :eek:

Damn....
Of course they'll do it. If they get the chance

Trust no one!!1:eek:
 

Pants

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Originally posted by Backtothemac
5 oz of weapons grade uranium would cause one hell of a messed up weekend somewhere. If it is not weapons grade it could still be used to poison a small water supply, or to create the appearance, fear factor of a dirty bomb explosion. In addition, it could be used for armor piercing cells. There are many applications for uranium.

This just goes to show everyone that the threat posed by the people is real. We have to be proactive with removing them from power. Once done, establish and maintain a peace.

To wait to handle the situation will sign the death certificates of millions of people.
whats the problem here? is it the scary word 'uranium'? yeah - put it in the water supply, and see what happens - nothing. Its like lead - lead is biologically pretty inactive in its elemental state. I'd be more concerned if it were say, selenium or beryllium being thrown about , but not uranium. A bomb designed to put it into the air as particulates maybe, but then we use (tons of!) depleted uranium shells on the iraqis without a moments hesitation, and we get worked up about the 'posibility' of a 5 oz 'dirty' bomb? blimey, i am sitting here wondering how easy it would be to efficiently turn that 5 oz ( a tiny amount....uranium is heavy....) into breathable, sub micron particles, and i reckon teh best way is to stick it on the tip of a bullet....and even then, the most obvious danger is being hit directly with the thing.