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Just wanted bring smiles out there...not really serious in hoping this will happen...

...but would it balance things out if a software update comes out to turn off the pixels on the sides of the iPhone X’s notch? The side info text can be in white then.

Of course, Apple won’t do it be because:
1. It will elimintate the phone’s unique look and make them look like they made a bad design decision after the fact.
2. Burn-in will be a risk on those spots.
 
Just wanted bring smiles out there...not really serious in hoping this will happen...

...but would it balance things out if a software update comes out to turn off the pixels on the sides of the iPhone X’s notch? The side info text can be in white then.

Of course, Apple won’t do it be because:
1. It will elimintate the phone’s unique look and make them look like they made a bad design decision after the fact.
2. Burn-in will be a risk on those spots.

I read somewhere that in Apple's developer guidelines developer are not allowed to black out the pixels with their apps so I doubt Apple will do it themselves. The notch was done on purpose.
 
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The notch was done on purpose.

I'd love to know who was behind that decision and their reasons behind it.

Uniqueness? I mean, we know there's only so many ways to design a rectangle but they could have done a lot better.

My bet is it will be gone next year.
 
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I think blacking out the ears would actually look worse. No matter what they do, they will never match the exact color/hue of the black from the bezel, so you will always see a difference which would annoy the crap out of me more than anything else.
 
I don't mind the notch as is. I think it looks futuristic and adds to the all screen effect of the phone. In portrait, screenshots have looked better to me and I think the 8 and prior look absurdly big compared to it. Looking forward to the changes. Once they are able to put the cameras under the screen, the notch may go away. I don't see that happening for a few years though.
 
What they should've done in the first place is have a very small bezel at the top and no notch.

Or redesign the 8. Narrow bezel at the top for the camera and phone ear speaker and bottom for the finger sensor. The sensor doesn't need to be round, there are plenty that are extremely narrow and would allow Apple to shrink both bezels down.

No need to launch the X, just make the 8/8+ into true flagship phones using today's tech. OLED, narrow top/bottom bezels, remove them on the sides. Basically make a galaxy that runs iOS.
 
Or redesign the 8. Narrow bezel at the top for the camera and phone ear speaker and bottom for the finger sensor. The sensor doesn't need to be round, there are plenty that are extremely narrow and would allow Apple to shrink both bezels down.

No need to launch the X, just make the 8/8+ into true flagship phones using today's tech. OLED, narrow top/bottom bezels, remove them on the sides. Basically make a galaxy that runs iOS.

I definitely wouldn't hate it. Luckily for me the 6/6s/7/8 and corresponding "plus" models are (IMO) easily the best iPhone design so I don't care how long it sticks around, but even though I like the design a lot I admit it's getting a bit dated.
 
Or redesign the 8. Narrow bezel at the top for the camera and phone ear speaker and bottom for the finger sensor. The sensor doesn't need to be round, there are plenty that are extremely narrow and would allow Apple to shrink both bezels down.

No need to launch the X, just make the 8/8+ into true flagship phones using today's tech. OLED, narrow top/bottom bezels, remove them on the sides. Basically make a galaxy that runs iOS.
So basically release the X.
 
I read somewhere that in Apple's developer guidelines developer are not allowed to black out the pixels with their apps so I doubt Apple will do it themselves. The notch was done on purpose.

it's exactly this. Devs are not allowed to "hide" the notch with black on either side of it. Apple wants this to be a distinctive part of the "look" of the device.
 
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So basically release the X.
Not for me. Imagine if your TV had rounded corners and a notch on the left side. Or your computer monitor, or laptop screen, or the movie theater. For me, it's about usable screen real estate.

I was also one of those movie nerds that preferred letterboxing even on square screens way back when, so maybe I am too in love with the golden rectangle.
 
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I think blacking out the ears would actually look worse. No matter what they do, they will never match the exact color/hue of the black from the bezel, so you will always see a difference which would annoy the crap out of me more than anything else.

That's true for LCD, but you won't see a difference with OLED on the X. Those pixels on the black areas are literally turned off when it's black.

"An OLED display doesn't need any of the electronics and circuitry used to drive the LED back light and LCD shutter from a LED display, which makes OLEDs more efficient. LED screens produce black simply by fully closing the pixel shutter—the back light is still shining (it never actually turns off) but the light itself is being blocked. An OLED instead turns the pixel off entirely to produce the color black, saving energy in the process."

https://gizmodo.com/why-is-oled-different-and-what-makes-it-so-great-1654102034
 
I’m going to venture to guess that once people start using the device, they won’t notice the notch as much - and in a few months time they won’t give a damn that their phone has a notch.
 
People saying that Apple should have had one bezel across the top of the iPhone X are silly, that would mean even less screen real estate below where the notch is, as they would have the Carrier Signal, WIFI, Time and Battery Life taking up even more space. I like how they are using the "ears" to fill this space with the Carrier/Signal/Wifi/Battery and Time - looks way better then the border we have now - more more immersive.

I can understand people being a bit perturbed by landscape mode with the notch, but I believe Apples approach to be correct, video apps will default to black borders on the sides, web browsing will stay in a rectangle to prevent things from being cut off. 3rd Party Apps and Games can have their content go into the ears, which is more immersive. I love the design guys - but I understand its definitely a personal preference.
 
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I'd love to know who was behind that decision and their reasons behind it.

Uniqueness? I mean, we know there's only so many ways to design a rectangle but they could have done a lot better.

My bet is it will be gone next year.
It was incredibly unintelligent design from incredibly unintelligent people. That’s all there is to it. It’s a software issue not a hardware one though.
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People saying that Apple should have had one bezel across the top of the iPhone X are silly, that would mean even less screen real estate below where the notch is, as they would have the Carrier Signal, WIFI, Time and Battery Life taking up even more space. I like how they are using the "ears" to fill this space with the Carrier/Signal/Wifi/Battery and Time - looks way better then the border we have now - more more immersive.

I can understand people being a bit perturbed by landscape mode with the notch, but I believe Apples approach to be correct, video apps will default to black borders on the sides, web browsing will stay in a rectangle to prevent things from being cut off. 3rd Party Apps and Games can have their content go into the ears, which is more immersive. I love the design guys - but I understand its definitely a personal preference.
You entirely missed the OPs idea which reflects that of most people concerning the notch. Well, people who are thinkers anyway.
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I’m going to venture to guess that once people start using the device, they won’t notice the notch as much - and in a few months time they won’t give a damn that their phone has a notch.
I’m going to venture you and everyone who suggests that will change their mind the moment they see the iPhone in a completely dark room. The notch will draw your eyes away from the content.
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What they should've done in the first place is have a very small bezel at the top and no notch.
Guess what else this would have meant that people aren’t smart enough to know?

The yield rate would be astronomically higher and both supply and price would be greatly improved. Apple is too worthless to even USE THE SPACE they’re getting. Look at some of the apps the moronic software teams at Apple have for the iPhone X. Look at the camera app.....it’s almost entirely wasted space. It’s profound how stupid and worthless the software teams at Apple are, and frankly Federighi should be taken off software lead and only do keynote presentations.

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It’s important to Apple to maintain their “edge to edge” claim so the notch is here to stay.
 
I’m going to venture you and everyone who suggests that will change their mind the moment they see the iPhone in a completely dark room. The notch will draw your eyes away from the content.
Black space will not draw my eyes away from content. That’s literally not how it works.
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It’s profound how stupid and worthless the software teams at Apple are
Yet they sell millions and millions of iPhones every year, in large part because of software. What a worthless team.
 
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Just wanted bring smiles out there...not really serious in hoping this will happen...

...but would it balance things out if a software update comes out to turn off the pixels on the sides of the iPhone X’s notch? The side info text can be in white then.

Of course, Apple won’t do it be because:
1. It will elimintate the phone’s unique look and make them look like they made a bad design decision after the fact.
2. Burn-in will be a risk on those spots.
I'd love to know who was behind that decision and their reasons behind it.

Uniqueness? I mean, we know there's only so many ways to design a rectangle but they could have done a lot better.

My bet is it will be gone next year.

It’s staying at least until 2021. If Apple removes the notch, it’ll appear as if they made a bad design choice.
 
Not for me. Imagine if your TV had rounded corners and a notch on the left side. Or your computer monitor, or laptop screen, or the movie theater. For me, it's about usable screen real estate.

I was also one of those movie nerds that preferred letterboxing even on square screens way back when, so maybe I am too in love with the golden rectangle.

But by definition the X has more "real-estate" (Pixels) If you have a 55" or 65" but both are 1080p with a 16:9 ratio neither has more real-estate.

The iPhone x can easily accommodate a 16:9 1080p image within the display area.
 
But by definition the X has more "real-estate" (Pixels) If you have a 55" or 65" but both are 1080p with a 16:9 ratio neither has more real-estate.

The iPhone x can easily accommodate a 16:9 1080p image within the display area.
What the hell are you talking about, real-estate the same on 55" as 65"? I'm afraid this doesn't make sense.
 
Black space will not draw my eyes away from content. That’s literally not how it works.
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Yet they sell millions and millions of iPhones every year, in large part because of software. What a worthless team.
Yes it literally will, because your vision computes the non-uniform display and the lack of light emission from that area will literally draw your attention. That’s reality, now you know.
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It’s staying at least until 2021. If Apple removes the notch, it’ll appear as if they made a bad design choice.
Which they did, although I agree with you, it’s staying, but it will be there probably indefinitely. You can’t place a camera behind a display, just because it will receive less photons even if the display was transparent. It’s just not happening.
 
I’m going to venture to guess that once people start using the device, they won’t notice the notch as much - and in a few months time they won’t give a damn that their phone has a notch.


Hear, hear. I've never used a thing that has a thing like the notch and ever not stopped noticing the thing's thing within a week or two of getting the thing and seeing the thing's thing in the first place.

Thing about that. Err, think.
 
I think blacking out the ears would actually look worse. No matter what they do, they will never match the exact color/hue of the black from the bezel, so you will always see a difference which would annoy the crap out of me more than anything else.

They could have made it an option. Immersive view: on/off
 
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What the hell are you talking about, real-estate the same on 55" as 65"? I'm afraid this doesn't make sense.

Having more screen doesn't give you more "real-estate"

If i change my screen resolution from 1440 x 900 to 1920 x 200 that gives me more real-estate. Even though the diagonal size of my screen hasn't changed. having a larger screen of a plus doesn't give you more real-estate over the iPhone x. In fact you are loosing "real-estate" on the Plus
 
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