U.S. Agrees to $30 Billion Arms Sale to Saudis

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  1. (marc) macrumors 6502a

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    From the article:

    This move is unsurprising, since by supporting Saddam Hussein, the Taliban and Iranian revolutionaries, the US has already made plenty of positive experiences ensuring freedom in the Middle East!

    It is very relieving to know that Saudi Arabia can now defend its sovereignty in any weather. It is essential to protect this stronghold of freedom, where human rights activists are detained, women are being flogged for driving, criminals are forcefully amputated and people are beheaded for "sorcery".
    Saudi Arabia has also demonstrated its commitment to freedom and the peoples' right to power in 2011:

    God Bless America for bringing freedom to this world! :rolleyes:
     
  2. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Why do I have the song Rock the Casbah stuck in my head now?

    Things would be quite different if American foreign policy had now or ever been predicated on any kind of belief in the intrinsic value of democracy or freedom, but I don't think this has ever been the case.
     
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    The U.S. finds it more economically viable to let others pay to defend their oil supply, rather than put their own troops 'on the ground' to do so.

    Democracy and freedom have dick-all to do with it.
     
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    This is probably a silly thing to point out, but I think the all-weather aspect is more important than it may seem on first glance. It's less about being able to fight in the rain, but being able to maintain no-fly zones and security overflights at night.

    Night is considered a "weather" condition, and the lack of overhead cover at night gives a window for an aggressor to exploit. This sale reduces that risk, and therefore may help create more stability.

    That being said, the countdown to the embarrassing picture of the President or some other high-ranking official shaking hands with someone we are now at war with should start right about now.
     
  5. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    I think Bush got a bad rep for doing something that is endemic.

    Hmmm, wait... we've got a failing education system, right? Can we get the Saudis to fly suitcases of cash to the Washington, DC instead of Afghanistan and Pakistan, and get them to build madrasas here? Two birds, you know... one stone?
     
  6. (marc) thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Then isn't the US the biggest terrorist in this world? How can the US make a weapons deal with Saudi Arabia in the name of "stability" when the biggest aggressor during these past years in the Middle East was the US itself?

    :D
     
  7. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Not to mention the fact that we were attacked by Saudi nationals...
     
  8. quagmire macrumors 603

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    As long as we can sabotage the F-15's like we did to Iran's F-14's, we should be good. ;) :p
     
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    OH LOOK! A future war in the making! :rolleyes:

    Don't forget another great recession....
     
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    At least it generates some jobs. The only manufacturing jobs we have anymore is building weapons.
     
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    I want to know what our profit margins are on these sales.
     
  12. renewed macrumors 68040

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    Just go look in the driveways and neighborhoods of our elected officials.
     
  13. mcrain, Jan 5, 2012
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    The profit on these deals rarely goes to the government, but to the military industrial complex. If you want a real eye opener, go into the suburbs around DC and look at the homes of the CEOs of the big military contractors.

    Here's where your tax dollars are going. Oh, and yes, we taxpayer's have no say about the CEO compensation. Free market! Woo Hoo!

    http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11257

    (edit) From an article linked on the above page:
    Wow.

    (edit) According to a top expert on war-time contracts, Charlie Cray of the Center for Corporate Policy, the DHB case is just one of many that deserve lawmakers’ attention. He pointed to the Pentagon inspector general’s admission that the military has failed to account for $8.8 billion in Iraqi reconstruction funds as evidence that we haven’t yet scratched the surface of the “war profiteering iceberg.” [/quote] $8.8 Billion is a lot more than all of the money donated by certain incredibly wealthy individuals to elect the people who made it all possible.

    (edit2) One more interesting quote from that article:
     
  14. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    I think it does rather say something about our economy that Washington DC is the wealthiest metro area in the US, ahead of San Jose, NYC, etc. (That is, in a country where there are clear financial and tech hubs that are not the capitol, meaning I understand for instance that London is probably the wealthiest metro area in the UK).
     
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    And who decides which military contractors are used? And you don't think they get a payout for using such a contractor or even directly "invest" in the company and celebrate the profits?
     

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