U.S. Copyright Office: is it okay if our new website only wo...

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  1. ppc_michael Guest


    Apr 26, 2005
    Los Angeles, CA
    Honestly. It's not that hard to get things to work with all browsers. I even did it, and I'm an idiotic 19-year-old wanker.
  2. zap2 macrumors 604


    Mar 8, 2005
    Washington D.C
    i think iy should be allowed but people schold but some time well if you have to use it there is an IE for mac amd Windows but what about Linux? I think firwfox should become built in web broswer on Windows Vista and 10.5 then that would make it easier
  3. Stella macrumors 604


    Apr 21, 2003
    There are very few reasons why sites need to be IE only. Its just laziness / poor developers / business requirements / ignorance.

    One word: W3C.

    Yes, browsers don't conform correctly - HOWEVER, it is easier to make sites work on all browsers, except IE - due to its bugs in HTML rendering, javascript ( err, microsoft, its Javascript NOT jscript ) and CSS.

    There is absolutely no need for IE specific features such as:
    * ActiveX
    * microsoft extensions to javascript ( document.all - which is non standard ),
    * microsoft extensions to html.

    If you are using these technologies, your site is poorly designed.

    IE an extremely poor browser and frustrating to develop websites with - things that work in Safari, Firefox just fall apart in IE, particularly CSS.

    IE is a serious security hole.

    I have a hard time in reading your comment, but Firefox will never be the default browser for Windows. Never.

    There is never an excuse for IE only sites ( general sites that do not integrate into windows ). The internet is not extension of Windows.
  4. Whyren macrumors 6502a


    Jun 3, 2004
    east of the West and west of the East
    True, but there are some situations of incompatibility that are ridiculous. I've had some pages I've tested load perfectly fine in over 20 browsers (yes, some are of the rarely used type), but still not work in Internet Explorer for PC. Only one other browser I tried generates pages erroneously in the same way as IE for PC...Netscape 4.

    IE is the one browser I find consistently saying "Yeah, I know that the page is specified this way, but here's what I think it should look like."
  5. nagromme macrumors G5


    May 2, 2002
    "in order for any taxpayers to object, the U.S. Copyright Office is so antiquated that they require original comments and five copies should be mailed..."


    And I'm sure this proposal was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying "Beware of the Leopard."
  6. OhEsTen macrumors regular

    Dec 29, 2003
    Don't put yourself down like that. We all were 19-year old wankers once.

    But this story is really typical with a governement that favors obscenely big-business/monopoly's where mega-corps like microsoft, wallmart, verizon and halliburton dominate us to death.
  7. saurus macrumors member

    Nov 15, 2004
    Saint Paul, Minnesota
    Why would they do that anyway?

    Read this article earlier and I just have to wonder who's really implementing this. Siebel CRM is meant to be used internally, complete with security, et al. It's not a software package that just anyone could easily use without training, so why would you expose that to the outside world? Would the Copyright office really leave a portal open to just anyone to screw up their CRM software? I would seriously doubt it.

    So whats wrong with the Copyright office just implementing a basic java webpage where submissions can be sent to them? This way they could potentially add the data to a database. That data could in turn be added to the CRM system quite easily...

    Sounds like they dropped the ball, and their current out of date Siebel version seemed like a good excuse for the timebeing.
  8. iMeowbot macrumors G3


    Aug 30, 2003
    This is very, very, very unlikely to affect many people.

    Unless you are in the middle of producing one of:
    • Motion picture subject to theatrical distribution contract with an
      established distributor of motion pictures;
    • Sound recording subject to contract for distribution of physical
      phonorecords with an established distributor of phonorecords; or
    • Nondramatic musical composition performed in sound recording subject
      to contract for distribution of physical phonorecords with an
      established distributor of phonorecords
    you will not be using this process, no matter what software it requires.

    Preregistration is for established businesses, not independent artists. They've all got Windows anyway.
  9. Iroganai macrumors regular


    Oct 18, 2003
    As a recent non-imigrant visa applicant,
    I'd like to point out that the US embassy at Japan has its
    webpage already IE only...


    The menus in the left hand side doesn't work in either Safari or Firefox :mad:
  10. xsedrinam macrumors 601


    Oct 21, 2004
    All I know is that I clicked on the link on the main page to respond, and it disappeared. If I thought it was a bigger deal, I'd pursue it, but it probably won't make a bit of difference.
  11. zap2 macrumors 604


    Mar 8, 2005
    Washington D.C
    no firefox will never be he main browser for OSX and Windows Vista but it would be a good idea
  12. GodBless macrumors 65816


    Jan 22, 2005
  13. cwtnospam macrumors regular

    Sep 4, 2004
    They're accepting faxes: (202) 707-8366
    I also called to complain: (202) 707-8380

    The woman who answered said they had received many complaints and were considering changing the policy but needed to hear from more people in writing.

    To any who do decide to write, please try to ensure that your spelling, grammar, and punctuation are correct. It is the Copyright Office after all, so poorly written arguments are likely to carry little weight. For the same reason, please try to be polite and refrain from using obscenities, no matter how awful you think their plan is. ;)
  14. mkaake macrumors 65816

    Apr 10, 2003
  15. rjwill246 macrumors 6502

    Feb 22, 2003
    USA (often) and Adelaide, OZ
    Idiotic indeed

    I have printed four articles from the 'related' list and sent them off to the fax number that was posted. It is incredible that while our govenment talks about security it has made itself so vulnerable in its Internet communications. I am not sure if it is 'incredible' or 'typical.' Either way, it makes the government agencies who have opened themselves up like this look, well, idiotic!

    Thanks for the phone/fax numbers. A deluge, ladies and gentlemen???
  16. GodBless macrumors 65816


    Jan 22, 2005
  17. Kagetenshi macrumors 6502

    Feb 24, 2004
    There is absolutely no excuse for this. The browser should be irrelevant, not uniform. This would easily be grounds for boycotting Firefox.


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