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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by zimv20, May 2, 2005.
i stand by my assertion of 2 years ago: that bush would nuke something in a second term.
new policy = hulk smash.
Pretty sophisticated there boys...
Glad they set the bar so high.
"Possible attacks with weapons of mass destructions": where have I heard that standard bandied about before?
I don't think this is really all that new or radical of a thought. It's just codifying what otherwise would be an unwritten rule. Get the POTUS's permission BEFORE you launch a nuke. If there's something worth shooting a nuke over, let's talk.
Unfortunately I'm afraid Bush's launch threshhold might be a bit low, to put it mildly.
Rumsfeld Asks Congress to Fund Nuclear-Bomb Study
is it just me, or have there been more nuke stories in the past week than normal?
And with that note, I'll be looking at the BC online classifieds.... Now where the hell'd I put my birth certificate.....
So let me see if I grasp the concept:
If you can't find the lab
You must nuke it.
If you can't find the bombs
You must nuke it.
Go foreward, move ahead
It's not to late
to nuke it
nuke it good.
So Nuke it...
Nuke it good
Heh.. thanks got getting that song in my head the rest of the day.
It makes C-span a little more fun though doesn't it?!?
Hehehe.. I didn't think that was possible, even with bourbon.
I still think the best wy to make it worth watching would be to make a simple rule that you have to wear the logos of your contributors.... like NASCAR. Additionally, you have to plug them whenever possible.
Senator Kennedy: There's nothing wrong with this bill that a little Ketchup wouldn't fix.
Senator Dole: Or a little Viagra.
LOL!! I think Kennedy would be covered head to toe with Johnnie Walker patches.
perhaps because in the UN the discussion about the future of the non-proliferation treaty (NPT) just started _today_ ?
with the mini nukes working against that treaty it doesn't look very good for _less_ nukes in the world when the US themselves keep developing new ones ...
Since I happen to live in NYC, I do find this scenario quite irritating.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing.
Apparently the nuclear clock has been moved closer to midnight this week as well...
it has? their site hasn't been updated...
Oh nevermind. I read a new article with an old quote from the people who maintain the clock.
must ... resist ... to ... start .. Iron Maiden - 2 Minutes To Midnight ... way ... too ... late ... for ... that ...
"2 ... minutes .. to miiidniiight "
ahhhh it's a classic
i wouldn't be surprised if it is updated soon.
Just to lay some groundwork here on the facts of nuclear weapons:
The lower to earth the detonation of a nuclear weapon, the more fallout is created. The smaller the yield, the dirtier the bomb.
A well placed airburst leaves minimal fallout, but early weapons tests, like the Plumbbob and Hardtack (II) series (and even the Trinity test) were close to the ground and produced so much fallout that significant doses of radioisotopes of iodine, strontium and cesium were measureable in the rain that fell over the eastern and southern United States, causing a spike in both the number of miscarriages and cases of infant leukemia.
What Bush is proposing we use, these so-called "bunker-busting nukes" are a unicorn. They don't exist. They'll never exist. It's impossible to punch a nuclear device into the earth deep enough to prevent significant amounts of local fallout from spewing into the air. They'd need to penetrate at least three times deeper than would be physically possible.
These devices will be low-yield, low-depth nuclear explosions releasing thousands of curies of radioactive isotopes that will kill and sicken thousands of people in the region of the detonation.
Unless we show up on the surface, drill out a shaft 300 meters deep, drop our bomb in it and plug it before detonation, there's no way to make a working, safe bunker-busting nuke.
Pre-emptive *nuclear* strikes against *possible* attacks? Um, the last time we pre-emptively attacked someone it turned out the people in charge were not only wrong, they were full of ****.
Additionally, the last time we nuked someone was after years of all-out war, and alternatives were few and far between. Which is *not* the situation now.
They've gone mad.
Not to mention the fact that Bush is doing his best to dismantle every international system created for controlling nukes. Guess now we know why.
I bet they'll be carried out with "surgical precision", too.
Yeah, in one of those hospitals where they cut off the wrong foot.
You try and sing that to the young people of today, and they wont understand you, they wont.