U.S. Sanctions On Russia Won’t Be Lifted Until Crimea Is Returned To Ukraine: Rex Tillerson

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    trump raises the level of stupid yet again.
     
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    hmmm, I wonder how much Putin is hating himself right now, then again the whole point was to not get Hillary elected.
     
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    sure as hell love that part :D
     
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    Well that's good. Now the real question is will the Trump administration bother to do anything if Putin decides to invade somewhere else.
     
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    it better not.
     
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    Depends on if there is a Trump property there.

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    ha.bloody.ha. still, good point...
     
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    I know you're thinking I'm being cynical, but let's think about it..

    If Putin invaded Scotland, would Trump intervene, even knowing that his property and employees are at risk?

    If superimposed on top of another, if one were to map out the countries excluded from the Muslim ban, you'd see that some of the countries excluded were also where Trump has business dealings and/or property. If Putin invaded those for the oil, would Trump intervene, seeing that the same issues would be there?

    At some point, should Putin do something to challenge Trump, he would be put into a position where he needs to decide: does his brand take a hit, along with the people working to better his brand, or does he let it go, at the cost of the lives of the (American) employees working to better his brand?

    By not throwing everything into a blind trust and renouncing any claims to those for the duration of his Presidency, Trump has the potential for a huge conflict of interest, which could force him out of office for the duration of that conflict, per clause 3 of the 25th Amendment.

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    Frankly, I think Trump is an ego-driven veneer on the more plain corporate plan to carve up the globe to maximize shareholders profits . that's cynical.
     
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    Clearly part of Putins plan after working with Trump to defeat Clinton.
     
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    Another part of Donald Trump's continuing education.

    I am quite certain that he has had no end of people, from senior military officers, to diplomats, to former Presidents, to the leaders of allied countries explain to him - in no uncertain terms - why the premature end to sanctions on Russia would be a disaster for the foreign policy and security of the United States.

    Call this (apparent) turnaround another broken Trump campaign promise we can all be thankful for.
     
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    So in other words, sanctions will never be lifted.
    I don't see Russia ever giving back Crimea.
     
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    Might be Tillerson going against Trump. Some people have a slight dash of hope that Tillerson, in all his infamy, may be like Wheeler. Someone willing to fight what they were for or against in their prior line of duty. I still want his emails on global warming to be leaked, damnit.
     
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    I presume no-one cares about the likely slaughter of the ethnically Russian Crimeans, by the descendants of the Gallician SS thugs, should Ukraine gain control.
     
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    lol.. it was his time
     
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    It's a capitol hill norm...
     
  18. zin Suspended

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    I thought Trump was a Russian agent? I thought Tillerson had special ties to Putin through Exxon?

    Amazing how the narrative has disappeared in recent days. What a sham.
     
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    That was my first thought. Have Tillerson and Trump even discussed the matter? There doesn't seem to be much communication amongst this administration.
     
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    You may think that that narrative has disappeared, but it isn't. Hearings are still going on; case in point: a major investigation into Michael Flynn, and details arising that he was warned about accepting payments from Russia... back in 2014.

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    Are sanctions ever effective?
     
  22. jerwin macrumors 68000

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    Russia has thugs of its own. It just uses them against different people.
     
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    Just because Putin has buyer's remorse doesn't mean Russia didn't tamper with our election.
     
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    At worst, they provided documents to WikiLeaks on how Hillary's campaign conducted itself. At best, they did nothing.
     
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    We already got a taste a few days ago when he called Erdogan to congratulate him on getting his referendum through, effectively making himself dictator of Turkey. Trump loves a winner, especially in a country where Trump has business interests. Let's not forget the business will be there for some time after Trump is president.
     

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