(UK) General Election [RESULT]

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  1. JarScott, May 22, 2017
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    RESULT: HUNG PARLIAMENT
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    The Conservative party must now attempt to form a government, possibly through coalition with the DUP. Labour may also attempt to put a government together. Many have called for Theresa May to resign after arguably a terrible defeat.

    What do you think?

    Update: Theresa May has announced that she will form a government with DUP.

    If by chance you're reading this well into the future, I hope it all turned out okay. If it didn't, I guess the UK was nice while it lasted.
     
  2. jeyf macrumors 6502

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    day to day life takes its toll and voting gets put on the ignore list

    to promote the general good citizens that vote should qualify for a government blowback: minor tax break, free auto registration/parking...
     
  3. nebo1ss macrumors 68030

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    The results is a foregone conclusion hence many will not bother this time.
     
  4. jeyf macrumors 6502

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    elections here are close, a win is only a tiny percentage
     
  5. JarScott thread starter macrumors 601

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    Actually, the polls are changing rapidly. We cannot afford to have that attitude. It will always be worth voting. Not bothering is cementing that "forgone conclusion." It's a totally contradictory, nonsensical thing to do.
     
  6. unlinked macrumors 6502a

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    I think you are probably supposed to be voting based on the local election candidate.
     
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    Everyone has an even bigger say if no-one votes.
     
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    I am a UK resident of 20+ years, but not a citizen. It seems a shame to me that people in the UK seem to think it is somehow noble to not vote, simply can't be bothered, or shrug their shoulders saying it's futile. If you didn't vote but can, then please don't utter a peep of criticism about the government of the UK that gets elected in June.
     
  9. JarScott thread starter macrumors 601

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    Knew somebody would find something wrong with that wording, I think it's clear what I'm saying. Literally in the same paragraph I mentioned voting for a party's MPs. But the point is, your vote should be based on policy and not party leader.
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    I will never understand the mentality that voting is futile. That's a totally backwards point of view, that stands to do nothing but harm our society.
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    Well there's a large percentage of people who wouldn't even consider not voting, but another percentage of people who need to care more in order to put together a valid opposition.
     
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    Agreed. IMO if you perceive the current candidates as unacceptable, then you need to consider running yourself for office or supporting a party that favours the changes you'd like to see. It's not as though citizens are limited to voting only.
     
  11. sorcery, May 22, 2017
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    love the quiz. Sould be mandatory for school-leavers. Too many vote for parties opposed to their personal views. Luckily for the elite...
    Having said that, my personal beliefs (liberal) are opposed to my financial wellbeing.
     
  12. fitshaced macrumors 68000

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    If no-one votes, you can't get a bigger opposition.
     
  13. JarScott thread starter macrumors 601

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    Okay, but thinking in reality just for a second. It's an easier campaign to encourage none-voters to vote than to tell everyone on the electoral register that it would be better if they didn't vote.

    I know which would have me taken more seriously.
     
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    I've always said - if you abstain, you lose your right to complain.
     
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    Sure. And on goes the game of pretending that it makes a difference. You have a vote for one party not being able to keep their promises or the other party with the same problem. That's not a voice. That's a rat in a cage. You're just selecting the easiest band wagon to jump on.

    Obviously no disrespect intended.
     
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    If people register and make sure they make the effort to vote, it shouldn't mean the result is as predictable as expected.
     
  17. lowendlinux Contributor

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    I don't know if now is such a great time to kick Ms. May out.


    This assumes she has a Brexit plan with with negotiators hired and the like.
     
  18. JarScott thread starter macrumors 601

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    Depends if you believe she's the right person to negotiate Brexit on terms that's best for the whole country, or not. Just because she has a plan doesn't mean she shouldn't be removed from government.
     
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    In the same respect it's the bottom of the 9th on brexit..

    I wish you guys luck no matter the outcome.
     
  20. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    Its a mixed bag, worldwide millions of people have give their lives for the democratic right to vote, in the UK the suffragettes were treated abhorrently during their struggle for a democratic right to vote, however not voting is also a democratic right.
     
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    This is true, so much as you should attend your polling station and spoil your ballot. I think that's still taking an active role in the democratic process.
     
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    Will not be voting. I will be spoiling my ballot.

    To hell with all of them.
     
  23. NeilHD macrumors regular

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    I'm a committed voter (and voted Conservative my whole life, apart from a brief dalliance with Tony Blair when he first came in - which was fine, Conservatives were in no state to run a country back then).

    But now? There is literally nobody I want to vote for.

    Tory - No. Dislike Theresa May intensely. Don't like her Brexit-at-all-costs attitude (remain voter here). Also don't like her anti-privacy laws and I'm not sure about this latest old age care plan either.
    Labour - Also dislike Corbyn. Far to socialist for my liking.
    Lib Dems - was with them until they said they were going to increase Income Tax - in opinion I pay far to much tax already. Also, my local council/MP is Lib Dem, and the council is bloody useless.

    So that leaves me, really, with nobody. I've always considered myself right-centre, but there is just no party there anymore. Tories are far too right at the moment, and Labour far too left.
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    Also, I'm of the opinion that a stronger government is BAD for Brexit negotiations, not good.

    My logic is that if there is only a slim majority then the PM can say to the EU, "Sorry, but I just won't get that through parliament". Whereas after this election it's likely to be "well, this is rubbish but there's nobody to oppose it, so we'll have to take it"
     
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    Not sure that logic works given that the conservatives seem to be the only party that seem to want to enact actually leaving the EU.
     
  25. NeilHD macrumors regular

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    That's kind of my point.

    If there were only a slim majority then getting parliamentary approval (which was promised, I believe, although TM has promised a lot of things and been proven her word cannot be trusted) then it wouldn't take many Tory rebels to oppose a suggested deal. With TM controlling most of parliament, getting her way will be simple, and those opposing Brexit (or, at least, a bad Brexit) won't be able to stand up to a bad deal.
     

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