UK.Gov considering database detailing every phone call and e-mail

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  1. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

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    BBC.

    Oh joy of joys. Another horrendously expensive IT programme to completely cock up, and then lose all the data from.

    I know, tax us some more to pay for it. Awesome.

    Sleep easy fair citizens, all your data are belonging to us! ....unless we can't find it, in which case we never had it, ok?

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    When the government can't keep something "simple" like say the child tax credit details private how in the world are they going to do this? On email alone I have nearly 10000 messages. So that makes the database 10000x larger :eek:.
     
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    Luckily, we can trust the Government to keep proper care of our sensitive data, and ensure that there's no possibility – either intentionally or through carelessness – of it falling into the wrong hands.

    Oh... hang on a minute. We're talking about the Government, aren't we? :rolleyes:
     
  5. remmy macrumors 6502a

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    And there will be those people saying if you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear. Those people worry and irritate me so much.
     
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    Well, you were told about it, so take comfort you're still getting a better class of "service" than we are, from a government with a deep appreciation of the people's fundamental right to know exactly how they are being violated by their government.
     
  7. Much Ado macrumors 68000

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    Yes. Think of it as like a burglar giving you ten minutes notice to vacate the premises before breaking your door down.
     
  8. remmy macrumors 6502a

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    Although I do wonder if it will include spam and newsletter emails and annoying telesales.
     
  9. xUKHCx Administrator emeritus

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    If it didn't it would be completely pointless as what determines something as spam? It would be plenty easy enough to hide a message inside a spam email etc.

    I hope this doesn't go through.
     
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    How much longer before a "V for Vendetta" scenario?
     
  11. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    in the US or the UK?

    i think they're racing one another there to be honest.
     
  12. xUKHCx Administrator emeritus

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    What I pay £6 to see a rubbish film ;)

    I hope our MPs have the backbone to object to this.
     
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    Agreed, it'll be everything, and that is the fact that will make these data stores HUGE!
     
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  16. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Pretty spooky.
     
  17. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

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    yeah, and i might be a bit cynical, but all the technology that we've gained just seems to be used more and more for control rather than a better purpose.
     
  18. big_malk macrumors 6502a

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    It's not exactly hard to get a Pay & Go SIM card, or open a free email account with phoney details. The only criminals they'd catch with this are the really really stupid ones who would get caught anyway.

    They can already access this data anyway with a warrant, this would just cost huge amounts of money, cause huge problems, and be a huge waste of time. Sounds like a government plan all right!
     
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    I think that since the introduction of Project Echelon, the UK has been the listening post for the USA to the rest of the world, IMO.

    And it is also a testing ground for technology like CCTV which would never get as much acceptance in the USA (true, it is probably happening there, but on a much smaller scale and without people being so aware), see here for a clever middle finger project.

    As far as I am concerned the UK won the race and the US is on the previous lap.
     
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  21. edesignuk thread starter Moderator emeritus

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    If only they could guarantee this sort of security, but they would never get it right.
     
  22. big_malk macrumors 6502a

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    I read that earlier, interesting read.

    If they went ahead, they probably would get some private company to run it, and expect it to be like that. But they'd hire the company with the lowest bid, then turn a blind eye when they cut corners, and end up with very substandard results.
    Like the private prison service where guards watch a man beaten to death on CCTV, because they didn't have enough staff working to be allowed to intervene by their own rules. Sickening.
     
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    To paraphrase Mme Roland…

    "Oh national security, what crimes are committed in thy name."

    This government is long gone down the slippery slope.
     
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