UK ISPs, should they be allowed to check up on us?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by PowerFullMac, Jul 25, 2008.

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Do you agree with what ISPs are doing?

  1. No, I think we should be allowed to download whatever we want!

    21 vote(s)
    70.0%
  2. Yes, piracy shouldnt be allowed!

    4 vote(s)
    13.3%
  3. I dont like priacy but it should be sorted out another way

    5 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. I have a different view (if so, post it in this thread)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. PowerFullMac macrumors 601

    PowerFullMac

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    #1
    With all this stuff going on with ISPs in the UK agreeing to send out letters to users who have been identified by the BPI as music pirates, do you think this should be allowed? Are you for or against it? Are you against piracy but want it to be sorted out some other way? Post your views here!
     
  2. és: macrumors 6502a

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    #2
    This is the internet for god sake. This is the bastion of freedom. **** off and leave us alone you commercialising bastards.

    Talk of licence fees, banning, letters of warning. You don't own the ****ing internet you bunch of wankers.

    I voted for "I don't like piracy but it should be sorted out another way"
     
  3. PowerFullMac thread starter macrumors 601

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    #3
    Thank you!

    I agree completely!

    Give that man a medal! :p
     
  4. MacBoobsPro macrumors 603

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    We should start a new internet.

    Everyone open up their networks so everyone can use them. We can keep our websites in our public folders and transfer what the hell we want. No ISPs required (I think). :D

    BTW I don't condone piracy but Im no angel either. That being said iTunes is so freakin easy to use I use that more than anything now anyway. :)
     
  5. és: macrumors 6502a

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    It's infuriating. Every company just wants to earn their little piece out of us. What was once (and still is mostly) the best resource of unbiased information and free communication is now a place where people just want to throw subliminal adverts in your face, make money from your surfing of other peoples design/intelligence and now they want to start charging us for the different pages we visit.

    I hope there will be a major internet revolution against this sort of crap.

    I remember when food was sold to feed people, now it's sold to make a profit out of flour and water at £1.00-£1.60 a loaf (that's $2-$3.60 for a loaf of bread). Don't people see that it's the very top earners in the country that are profiting and the other 98% that are going without because of it. The same will happen with the internet, everything is geared to make profit out of the masses so that the privileged few can hoard billions.

    Didums, the billion dollar music industry is loosing revenue. Maybe you can only have 15 bentleys and 4 private jets instead of 16 bentleys and 5 private jets. Poor ol' you.
     
  6. BoyBach macrumors 68040

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    I voted for the option with the spelling mistake! :p
     
  7. davidjearly macrumors 68020

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    #7
    I actually don't mind at all what the ISP's are doing, but I know I'm probably in the minority.

    Then again, I don't pirate music or video either.
     
  8. arkitect macrumors 601

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    #8
    He!
    I was wondering if it was meant to read:
    I dont like priVacy but it should be sorted out another way
    or…
    I dont like piracy but it should be sorted out another way

    That got my vote. ;)
     
  9. PowerFullMac thread starter macrumors 601

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    It was meant to be "I dont like piracy but it should be sorted out another way" LOL.
     
  10. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

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    Never the less, you should be bothered by this. They put technology in place to monitor one thing, it'll quickly become all sorts of things. They'll decide what is suitable for you, what you can see, what you can read, what you can write.
     
  11. PowerFullMac thread starter macrumors 601

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    This is the beginning of not only the end of the internet, but the end of freedom of speech, freedom of choice and freedom of opinion.

    Its like the real life 1984! :eek:
     
  12. iGav macrumors G3

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    Well, if you're against piracy... and you don't actually pirate, then it's not actually going to affect you... is it? ;)

    You are kidding right?
     
  13. PowerFullMac thread starter macrumors 601

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    Read edesignuk's post above.
     
  14. arkitect macrumors 601

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    Just keep telling yourself that… ;)
    Ignorance is bliss it seems.
     
  15. és: macrumors 6502a

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    #15
    No. I'm talking about the world, not just Tesco Express.
     
  16. davidjearly macrumors 68020

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    I disagree. I would say that is paranoia. As far as I am concerned, the Music companies have every right to attempt to protect their business. Using ISP's to monitor internet traffic would not in any way impact my browsing/download habits.

    The only valid argument I have seen regarding this is how they would be able to distinguish any copyrighted material from non-copyrighted material that people may be downloading via P2P.
     
  17. PowerFullMac thread starter macrumors 601

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    But this system wont wok to stop piracy, anyone who knows what they are doing can encrypt their P2P connections or just use proxies.
     
  18. Jaffa Cake macrumors Core

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    #18
    My ISP sells its customers mistakes.

    If you make an error when typing a URL, it takes you to a third-party page with sponsored links that might relate to what you're looking for.

    Money-grasping little so-and-so's...
     
  19. davidjearly macrumors 68020

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    Fair point. However, I just find it irritating when everyone starts to criticise record companies whenever they attempt to protect their business. It seems that unlike any retail outlet, the general consensus is that they should do nothing.

    They will always be criticised, regardless of the methods they use, because people want to download free stuff.

    David
     
  20. James17 macrumors 6502

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    Stealing music and video is theft so why shouldn't they combat this problem? People can sit here and say they disagree but if they were someone out for a living and millions were receiving their work for free they would be angry and the "they earn millions anyway" argument is nonsense, it doesn't matter how much they get, if they provide a service then people should pay for it like any other person. This move by the UK Government in getting these ISP's to sign is long overdue.
     
  21. Leareth macrumors 68000

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    #21

    Yes stealing out of stores is theft too ,put we dont check peoples pockets and bags on the streets to make sure they have receipts that the bought the stuff from the store.
    another problem is that there are legitimate uses for p2p that a number of big companies use, yet you cannot utilize it cause its "for piracy"
    just like all my blank tapes, cd and DVD's will be used to copy music and movies which is why I am paying this bloody levy on blank media.
     

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