United States Suspends Contact With Russia Over Syria Impasse

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    So is Putin. And do you honestly think that Romney or McCain would be any better on this issue than Obama?
     
  3. Jess13, Oct 6, 2016
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    A ‘nice’ choice NBC has for the embed—a “White Helmet” al-Qaeda ally.

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    Here are the “White Helmets” helping al-Qaeda execute a Syrian:


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    Did you notice notice that al-Qaeda executioner’s Obama/CIA-supplied AK-47?

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    More “White Helmets,” like a dozen of them, chilling with their al-Qaeda friends yelling ‘Allāhu akbar!’ about recently captured Syrian who probably already has been beheaded or machine gunned or shot in the head with pistol by now:


    Notice “White Helmet” at :20 hit the guy
    then see group of them at :45 and 1:15



    Amazingly, the al-Qaeda, I mean “White Helmets,” probably will receive a Nobel Peace Prize this year. After the Nobel committee hasn’t rescinded Warbama’s, the Nobel has lost all its meaning relating to peace and antiwar.
     
  4. Jess13, Oct 7, 2016
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    Update: The White al-Qaeda Helmets did not win the Nobel Peace Prize! Nice. Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos has won. The Nobel committee still has a shred of integrity, credibility and humanity, but they could regain tons if they publicly rescinded Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize, since he has: decreased the nuclear stockpile the least of any post-Cold War president and is leading the charge to spend/waste $1 Trillion to upgrade and modernize the U.S. nuclear stockpile and weapons, and since he has: bombed seven predominently Muslim countries, bombing more countries than Bush, among Obama’s endless war crimes, terrorism and crimes against humanity.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Nobel_Peace_Prize

    The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to United States President Barack Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples".[1] The Norwegian Nobel Committee announced the award on October 9, 2009, citing Obama's promotion of nuclear nonproliferation[2] and a "new climate" in international relations fostered by Obama, especially in reaching out to the Muslim world.[3][4]
     
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    WTH? Is this a real question? McCain, or Romney, or Al Gore, are NOT the president. Are you seriously asking us to judge the foreign policy of individuals that have no say in it just because some hypotetical scenario fits some sort of agenda?
     
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    When you criticize people for voting for a president who has done things like this as @jkcerda has done repeatedly you need to be able to point out where there was a better option. And those were the other option available to us besides Obama.
     
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    Why does one have to defend Romney or McCain when criticizing Obama?

    But but but ROMNEY AND MCAIN!
     
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    The day that the Nobel ceased being meaningful.
     
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    Ah. So to criticize a movie, you must be capable of making a better one.

    Or capable of writing a better book.

    Or of being a better mayor.

    Or a better coach.

    Or chef.

    Got it.
     
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    No, because it's not a matter of people, it's a matter of policy. I would've said the same even if the president was Jesus himself. But he's not, Obama is. I can't criticize hypothetical presidents and their hypothetical behavior and expect a serious analysis.
     
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    What should Barack Obama do differently, in your considered and informed opinion? People really want to know.

    Because let's be clear about this, it isn't US warplanes and missiles that are targeting civilian infrastructure in Aleppo. It's Russian ones. It's not US military helicopters that are dropping barrel bombs on schools and hospitals, it's Syrian Government ones.

    How could Barack Obama stop much of the violence and humanitarian disaster in Syria? Simple: He could order the US military to shoot the Russian and Syrian Airforce out of the skies. But that wouldn't be a very good idea, would it?

    Don't waste my time with your tiresome nonsense about "arming the rebels" or "giving guns to ISIS". Because that simply didn't happen, at least not in the way you think it did. Don't bring it up, because the simple facts on the ground contradict your view of reality.
     
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    humanitarian, LMFAO that MORON armed the freaking rebels there extending the length of the conflict by doing so.
    here, let me waste your time with FACTS
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-signs-bill-to-arm-and-train-syrian-rebels/
    AS To what he should do? what he should have done from the start, leave them the **** alone, it's a civil war and none of his business.
     
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    Obama pours millions of dollars worth of high-tech weaponry into the Syrian cauldron with no idea where these weapons go or who receives them. His incompetence is epic. He also supplies the Saudis with the cluster bombs that they drop on civilians, while at the same time complaining about Assad's "barrel bombs."
     
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    What about the morons that put it up to his signature in the first place?
     
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    they should all be in GITMO IMHO.
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    it's "humanitarian" when we do it. just ask the liberals.
     
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    Let me just quote for you, from the article you cited:

    Are you seriously suggesting that countering the spread of ISIS is really "none of our business"? That the United States really has no interest whatsoever in fighting an extremist, and perverted, Islamic terrorist organization that has horrified the world with its barbarism and brutality. That has inspired terrorist acts everywhere from Paris to San Bernardino?

    None of our business? Indeed.
     
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    liberals love to yap about "humanitarian" reasons until they are confronted with facts, then it's about "terrorist" :rolleyes: , do WE have permission from that country to bomb it looking for "terrorist" ? can we go ANYWHERE and start BOMBING THEM because "terrorist" are hiding there? get real.
     
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    It didn't cease beaing meaningful when they gave it to Kissinger?
     
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    No. Read a book, and not Hitchens.
    Actually, go also check the primary sources. They're all available now, and a good read
     
  20. Jess13, Oct 7, 2016
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    So what if Warbama has sold more weapons than any other president in history, including more weapons to Saudi Arabia than any other president in history? Why does it matter if Warbama is the main reason for the Syrian conflict and its refugee crisis? It isn’t Warbama’s fault he has conspired with 9/11 Saudis to arm al-Qaeda, ISIS and other jihadists, helping cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands and destroying the lives of millions of Yemenis, Libyans and Syrians.

    Warbama’s the Nobel Peace Prize winner! Warbama’s antiwar!


    The Obama Years Have Been Very Good to America's Weapons Makers

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/obama-international-arms-weapons-deals

    The Obama years have been a boom time for America's weapons makers. Since 2009, the United States has approved arms deals worth some $200 billion—more than under any other presidency. The deals include sending Apache helicopters to Qatar, "bunker buster" bombs and cluster munitions to Saudi Arabia, and Hellfire missiles all over the place. Predicting an increase in weapons sales fueled by the war against ISIS, an unnamed American weapons manufacturing executive told Reuters last year: "Everyone in the region is talking about building up supplies for 5 to 10 years. This is going to be a long fight. It's a huge growth area for us.”


    It’s funny when dumb righties say that Obama is a ‘communist,’ when Hoebama is a corporatist warmonger.
     
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    Sponsored by Adidas?!
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    Exactly! It is about the policy. And how serious, genuine, and completely it is attempted and with contingency planning and safety nets.
     
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    Flabbergasted.

    Russia should be a strong ally of the US, not an enemy. I am confident that if Trump becomes President, then he will forge a great alliance with Putin, which will help them to defeat Isis.
     
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