Unprecedented negative coverage of the POTUS by MSM

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  1. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Strangely most Americans don't have much trust in their media.
     
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    Sadly they don't instill trust. Most of them have agendas and will do/say what they want to forward those agendas.
     
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    Granted the Russia hysteria is the neocon/warkhawk/military industrial complex's ******** narrative to continue provoking a war (as I've been saying US foreign policy has been aiming at for the 3+ years), BUT:



    The GOP had been talking about impeachment of Clinton since November of 2015.
     
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    Even aside from agendas modern media is mostly low quality copy and paste click bate crap.
     
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    Ok what's the list of good things Trump has done so far?

    • Appointed a Supreme Court judge.
    I'm out.
     
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    You left out:

    • Provide constant solid material to Saturday Night Live.
     
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    Has it occurred to you that the reason the coverage has been negative is that Trump has been a pretty dreadful President?

    Name one decent thing the **** gibbon has done?

    He has been remiss about making appointments to important positions. He has picked stupid fights with countries like Canada, Mexico, and New Zealand. He has spent an inordinate amount of time playing golf and flying to his Florida vacation home. He's reneged on pretty much all the promises he made as a candidate.

    His Press Secretary is a national joke. His wife obviously cannot stand his company. His handling of situations like North Korea and Syria are confused and unnerving. (The Trump people apparently couldn't remember where an aircraft carrier was heading over the weekend.) Trump still cannot properly tie a necktie and had to be reminded by his (foreign-born) wife of the correct way to stand during the playing of our National Anthem.

    Trump is a dreadful President. Every sensible person in the world knew this was going to be the case, long long ago.
     
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    Hardly a conspiracy theory is it? Bad news and sensationalism sell. The trump administration seems to offers up both of them every single day.
     
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    I have seen a few reports the level of illegal immigration from Mexico is down [or the number of people stopped illegally immigrating from Mexico anyway]. Democrats cheering because they ran a candidate who appeared in an ad with a semi automatic sniper rife [actually I don't know anything about guns so I'm probably wrong].

    Democrats becoming pro gun , less illegal immigration and a conservative supreme court are all probably things generic republicans like and that ignores the fact that I imagine not letting liberals do stuff is a good all on its own.
     
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    And when Obama was president, it was 100% negative coverage by Fox News and the right wing media. At least trump deserves the negative coverage.
     
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    They both deserved negative coverage.
     
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    And Twitter is getting a lot of exposure. I think everyone knows what Twitter is now.
     
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    They both deserve adversarial coverage, which is NOT the same thing as utter ******** ("secret muslim").
     
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    I can not STAND how Trump uses Twitter. It's the most unpresidential thing I can imagine.
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    Ummm? What?
     
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    Agreed, frankly as a 25 year old I still can't fathom why Twitter is so big (other than being a data collection tool for advertisers of course). I'll never sign up for it, or any of the other narcissistic nonsense.
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    Adversarial press coverage (look up the term) is then entire point of the 4th estate. It is to question authority and demand accountability. Obama should have been raked over the coals for legitimate reasons (Citigroup selecting his cabinet, QE and not holding the bankers to account, etc.) but instead we got "news channels" like Fox spending 8 years saying a devout corporate capitalist was somehow a socialist and (wink wink, nudge nudge) a muslim.

    I want real accountability, not **** stirring for the sake of **** stirring, in my press coverage.
     
  18. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

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    To me it is the complete lack of facts and reality in everything he does and says. Twisting facts now and then, thats a normal thing for politicians, as they have to cater to a wide audience, but Trump is taking that to a whole new level of existance that is just mind blowingly crazy - I could understand it if he was a religious nutcase or un-educated fool, but a President.. Wut.

    Obama also used Twitter, and he didn't make a mess of it. Of course, if we emphasize your use of the word "how" Trump uses Twitter, then I totally agree... :D
     
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    I know what the 4th estate is. Unfortunately the 4th estate has become the 5th Column. There is no real news anymore. They fawned over Obama and they over abuse Trump, although a lot of it is legitimate. They way they are treating Trump is how they should have treated Obama. Under Obama the media was more of a lap dog than a watch dog.
     
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    The media always have an agenda but the Donald has been baiting them since before the election.

    In regards to judging Trumps achievements so far as President; 'you can't polish a turd'...
     
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    Let me ask a question, though: isn't this exactly what Trump wants?

    Most politicians don't like the press. But Trump has run on saying that the press is his enemy. He has taken every opportunity to denigrate and insult most press organizations, and has gone so far as to make demonizing the press part of his stump speeches.

    And people love him for it.

    So, what is the issue here, then? Trump wants negative press. Trump does everything he can to create negative press. The more negative press, the more he can crow about it, and the more people love him. Right?
     
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    I don't think anyone would say he's the best president ever, but the media also has him under a microscope. Take, for example, the New York Times' effort to make it look like very few from the New England Patriots showed up at the White House by posting a picture comparing them with their 2015 visit. Just one problem, the 2015 picture had all staff included and the 2017 picture had just players. The NYT Sports tweet read: "Patriots' turnout for President Obama in 2015 vs. Patriots' turnout for President Trump today."
    Who could deny there is an agenda to that tweet rather than simply "reporting"? Obviously just one example but I think it's a good one that shows the mindset and the way reporting is being done these days. We really must take extra steps to make sure we're getting accurate news. Even the Associated Press had to admit a "mistake" this week when they translated the Fresno shooters words "allahu Akbar" to "god is great."

    Oh well, the msm has done a lot to lose the public's trust so now it's up to the public to work harder to get good information.
     
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    There is still plenty of real journalism out there, the thing is it's not in wide circulation because 5 companies own essentially 90% of all media consumption estates. But it exists.

    The John Pilgers, Robert Parrys, etc. of the world are out there but they'll never be in American mainstream media.
     
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    We need to dispel this idiotic delusion that the "mainstream media" is some sort of shadowy cabal committed to the undoing of the American way of life.

    It isn't. The "mainstream media" is a vast collection of individuals, companies, organizations, located in every corner of our country and the world. And composes of people with differing views on religion, on politics, economics, and society.

    The one thing that they (generally) agree on is: Report facts. Not "alternative facts." Real facts.

    If you don't like facts - thats your problem. Blaming the "mainstream media" for reporting them is simply admitting you don't like reality itself.
     

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