Unusually Balanced: Cockburn on Al Qaeda

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  1. skunk macrumors G4

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    A thoughtful piece from Patrick Cockburn. I cannot help but agree with his analysis, as far as it goes.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinio...myth-behind-the-war-on-terrorism-2352730.html
     
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    Patrick Cockburn is always worth reading. Agreed, a thoughtful, nuanced, intelligent piece. Thanks for posting it.
     
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    Great piece, made me think. Thanks for posting :)
     
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    Good read, I fully agree. Thanks for posting!
     
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    I'm not familiar with Cockburn. I'm interested in what you mean by "unusually." Does the article, in you opinion, "balance" prior writings of his, prior media-at-large commentary about Al Qaeda, or something else entirely? Put another way, what was out of balance already that Cockburn's article rightened? Thanks.
     
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    I think he means prior unbalanced media-at-large commentary about Al Qaeda.
     
  7. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    The attitude of US-based commentators to the subject of Al Qaeda, as with the "Palestinian Question", is usually more unthinking, State Department-led and US-centric. Cockburn's refreshing article is based on an independent and knowledgeable analysis, and presents a more balanced, global, and ultimately useful view. IMO. Do you have an opinion to share?
     
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    if you would have checked your PRSI dictionary you would have found that when somebody says an article is "unusually balanced," they mean they agree with it :p

    But while the article is indeed, er, "unusually balanced," it isn't really saying anything that hasn't been said frequently over recently years by many people.....you even hear this sort of "unusually balanced" talk from the intelligence community.......if you listen that is
     
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    Remind me Skunk; is it Eurasia or Eastasia that we're at war with?
     
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    I don't believe 'you' are at war with anyone at the moment.

    Not it the pure meaning of the word.

    Look-up WWII, after Pearl. :rolleyes: That's how it should be done.
     
  11. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    I'm not at war with anybody.
     
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    I think it's Eurasia. ;)
     
  13. Lord Blackadder, Sep 12, 2011
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    Apparently not.

    The article should serve as a warning to America and Americans that our obsession with Al-Qaeda plays into the hands of our enemies. Things like the Patriot Act repress us in ways that Al Qaeda never could.
     
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    I've been trying to think how the Patriot Act has repressed me personally.....
     
  15. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    That is not a necessary condition for declaring the Patriot Act repressive or unconstitutional. You might not even be aware that your privacy has been violated. The act permits organs of the US government to issue what are essentially a kind of lettre de cachet, circumventing due process in the name of counterterrorism.
     
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    Controversial invocations of the Patriot Act.
     
  17. Lord Blackadder macrumors G5

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    Exactly. This law facilitates arbitrary and incredibly devastating invasions of people's private lives in order to investigate "crimes" on laughably flimsy "evidence" and without observing due process. jailing people indefinitely without charge is a monstrous breach the constitution.
     
  18. skunk thread starter macrumors G4

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    Not frequently enough, and usually not as cogently.
     
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    The problem also rests with who is saying it. We get this analysis from intellectuals, not major elected officials or strategic planners who determine policy and/or influence public perception.
     
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    Well, did you rent a car, visit a casino, or rent storage in Las Vegas? Millions of people did and according to 2005 story by Business Week, the FBI sent National Security Letters to hundreds of businesses for the personal and financial information of millions of people.

    Moreover, because of the design of the NSL and 'sneak and peak' warrants, many people will never know that they were investigated by the FBI or that their personal privacy was affected.
     

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