US and Israel pull out of UNESCO

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  1. SoGood macrumors 6502

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    Conservation and preservation of our world was not of US’s interest for a long time, and relinquishing global leadership seemed to be more of US’s own doing.
     
  2. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    The US cuts their funding and they start a tab under the US's name for the difference? **** these guys. Wouldn't surprise me if many of the members they are biased for have no concept of women's rights, similar to the UN.
     
  3. stylinexpat thread starter macrumors 65816

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    One could argue biased for and argue biased against. Cup can be half full or half empty

    Iran can argue that America and Israel constantly apply anti-Iran biased policies against them as well.

    If I am not mistaken UNESCO and the UN speak out against all and not just a few select. Would it not be double standards to support criticism against others but then pull a biased card when others criticize you as well..? It is quite obvious these days that some double standards exist. Shouldn't everyone be able to freely speak out without fear of being punished for freedom of expression..?
     
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    Just looked at the list of members, complete joke. Countries on that list that don't even have basic rights for women.
     
  5. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Much like Trump. Grab 'em by the *****.

    Pot. Kettle. Black.

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  6. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Nope, if a woman reported that, Trump would go to jail. In some of these other countries the woman would be prosecuted for adultery for daring to let a man touch her there.
     
  7. stylinexpat thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Would be biased to not let everyone join though. Everyone should be able to join. It is easy for people to compare Rights and criticize others. Each country has its positives and negatives. Some are better and some are worse when compared to others.
     
  8. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Women did report that. So why isn't Trump in jail? Oh wait: He wants to delay all cases until he is OUT of office. However, that isn't how the judicial system works.

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  9. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Bring the case then. He doesn't get to decide when sexual assault charges are brought up. Probably more likely that the statute of limitations ran out.
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    Umm no, women rights abusers should be expected to reform before joining.
     
  10. stylinexpat thread starter macrumors 65816

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    In those countries they probably take away 30% of their rights while in America they take 30-50% of your money away. Each country takes away differently Freedom is not free in America. People pay for it
     
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    UNESCO's biased against Israel, whilst simultaneously producing one of the most coherent Holocaust education programs around.....

    Ironic.
     
  12. stylinexpat thread starter macrumors 65816

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    One could also say that America and Israel are biased against Iran and Palestine.
     
  13. bradl macrumors 68040

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    They have.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/trump-apprentice-lawsuit-presidential-immunity

    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...s-push-dismissal-of-sexual-harassment-lawsuit

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-contestants-lawsuit/?utm_term=.c2a01d78350c

    http://www.npr.org/2017/03/28/52184...-sex-harassment-suit-just-as-bill-clinton-did

    The funny thing here; He's trying to use the same tactic that Clinton did with the Paula Jones case; SCOTUS didn't buy that, as it was that same case that lead to his impeachment trial. Again, rule of law applies here; he can not have a case be put off until he leaves office, in a feeble attempt to have any statute of limitations run out on the case.

    Personally, I don't think that statute will run out, as the lawsuit was filed within days before his inauguration.

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  14. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Sexual assault is a criminal offense, the only thing you posted was a lawsuit.
     
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    Women have reported that. Trump isn’t in jail.
     
  16. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Please show the police case number from the sexual assault report.
     
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    Anyway, isn’t there generally a process called a ”trial”, or something, before the jail bit?
     
  18. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Are you really saying all the people who reported trump for sexual assault in the media haven’t been to the police and have all been lying even though they generally have no obvious motivation to do so.
     
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    I don't believe a police case number or anything of that sort was needed for Clinton v. Jones, where SCOTUS ruled that the POTUS does not get immunity for any court proceedings while they are in office. That's what brought the impeachment of Clinton.

    That ruling has precedence and applies for Trump. The lawsuit was filed, and has its own proceedings. That is what has to occur, not Trump asserting immunity. That's what Clinton tried, and was impeached anyway.

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  20. zin macrumors 6502

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    Because they decided to go to The New York Times instead of the police. They have still not reported the alleged incidents to the police.

    The lawsuits that some of them filed have nothing to do with his going to jail as they are civil complaints, not criminal.
     
  21. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Irrelevant to the precedent set by Clinton v. Jones. That does not prevent them from going to trial, let alone the court case proceeding.

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  22. zin macrumors 6502

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    You cannot be sent to jail in a civil suit (unless you're found in contempt). His attempts at delaying pending civil litigation would have nothing to do with jail time.

    So to answer your question a second time, he's not in jail because none of the women alerted the police to begin an investigation.
     
  23. Gutwrench, Oct 13, 2017
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    Good grief. You asked why Trump wasn’t in jail.

    The answer given was there wasn’t a criminal complaint.

    You list civil complaints.

    To which ZA and zin point out civil cases don’t result in jail sentences.

    Only to have you reply, irrelevant.

    Get a grip on the actual conversation you’re having. Either you realize you’re wrong and deliberately trying to deflect the conversation to the civil matter, or you just go get it. You asked a question, you got a rely to it. It’s. Pot. Kettle. Black. and. White.
     
  24. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    If they've been to the police then they either would have a case number with a pending criminal case or were told they didn't have a plausible story to prosecute. Let me repeat, sexual assault is a criminal offense. A sexual harassment lawsuit isn't the same as a sexual assault case.
     

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