US Confirms Russian Airstrikes in Syria

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  1. jkcerda macrumors 6502

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    http://news.yahoo.com/us-confirms-russian-airstrikes-syria-145732144.html

    good for him, time to stop wasting money on Syria.
     
  2. sim667 macrumors 65816

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    I imagine that they will bomb pretty indiscriminately regardless of how strong their intel is that its a daesh stronghold.
     
  3. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    per the article, the areas targeted so far might be rebel targets.
     
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    And from a Regime/Russian point of view, that means pretty much anyone.
     
  5. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    then we better leave ASAP :D
     
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    That's what the refugees said.
     
  7. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    what did the Libyan refugees say? thanks Obama for liberating us?
     
  8. juanm macrumors 65816

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    Unlikely.
     
  9. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    Well at least they are trying to support Assad, that is the only hope for a secular government in Syria. Although I think it might be a bit too late to keep Assad in power and the Russians should have intervened a long time ago.
     
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    Is Assad in power a good thing tho?
     
  11. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Better than a power vacuum. See Iraq and Libya.
     
  12. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    that is for the Syrian people to decide.
     
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    Better than any of the current alternatives. The Kurds are probably the next best, but they couldn't control most of the country where the non-Kurds live. Also if the fighting stops in Syria and the Kurds are in power then they will want to liberate the parts of Kurdistan that are in Turkey which happens to be a NATO member so if the Kurds attack them then the US will be obligated to respond. I think it is incredibly stupid of us to be trying to train and arm a faction that if they are successful will probably immediately go to war with NATO.
     
  14. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    The good thing is the Russians could give a rip what the world thinks of them if they hit the wrong thing. They will laugh, simply say "sorry", and keep bombing.
     
  15. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    we are arming our own enemies.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...0709313&PID=6160504&SID=if780q0v8z0117wu00dth
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...0709313&PID=6160504&SID=if780so6y60117wu00dth
     
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    never has been, we need to stop dictating who gets to rule other nations.
     
  18. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    Assad would have been gone long ago if it weren't for support and intervention on his behalf by the Iranian Republican Guard, Hezbollah troops, Iraqi Shiite militias and Russian arms.......Sunni countries such as the Saudis, Qatar, Turkey, et al still want Assad gone so Russian bombing will likely serve to extend the fighting.

    Europe can get ready for another wave of refugees
     
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    If Assad was gone it would either be all ISIS, or still be a war between ISIS and the Kurds. Like it or not Assad's government is still the legitimate government of Syria and is the only one other than ISIS who stands a chance of reuniting the country.
     
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    ISIS certainly gets the bulk of the attention from the western press, but it isn't the only islamist group fighting Assad and the area of Syria where Russia is reported to be bombing is an area where other groups have been making gains against Assad in recent months......those gains may be why Russia has decided to get involved at this time.

    Syria is much more factionalized than being a division between ISIS, Kurds or Assad.

    Probably nobody has a chance of reuniting Syria in the foreseeable future.
     
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    What concerns me is how Russia is giving us orders to get out and are now calling the shots.
     
  22. jkcerda thread starter macrumors 6502

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    we should do as they say. save some cash in the process.
     
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    I'm just worried about us bowing down to Russia and backing down as easy, kinda like being cowards. We should've had a stronger stance on accepting an order as easily as we did.
     
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    18 trillion in debt and you worry about perception? it's a CIVIL war that we had no business engaging in .
     
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    There is also the Al Nursa front which would be the next most likely to take over in the event of Assad falling, but they haven't done too well against ISIS. There is also a huge number of other minor factions that are still around due to foreign support. If all foreign governments pulled out the only groups that would be left after a few months are the Kurds, Assad, and ISIS. You may be right that no one will be able to unite Syria, but if anyone has a chance it is Assad or ISIS, and possibly one of those two groups uniting the rest of Syria while giving the Kurds independence. Out of those choices I think Assad is by far the best.
     

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