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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by zimv20, Oct 15, 2003.
What about Iran and North Korea? We haven't taken care of those problems yet, and already we are looking for more people to put on our enemies list? This administration seems to have a collective case of ADD. Short attention span on things that will provide short-term political gain, with no long term solutions. I guess that makes it easier to blame whoever gets stuck cleaning up the mess.
Lovely article here about the joys of living in North Korea. If we really cared about the welfare of the common Iraqi, shouldn't we also care as much about the welfare of the common North Korean? This stuff sounds pretty bad.
Sounds like the human rights violations there are just as bad as those of Hussein. And the justification for the Iraqi war was human rights... right?
No the justification for Iraq was WMD, but it should have been human rights. Either way, there is at least as much justification to attack the DPRK(North Korea) as there was to attack Iraq. That is what made the DPRK so nervous when the war started in Iraq, and why they demanded gaurantees from the US. I don't blame them. President Clinton came very close to attacking the DPRK, so I believe President bush would attack them if provoked. What exactly constitutes provocation is a matter of debate. Now it seems that President Bush has given up on restraining the DPRK so that he can focus on these other countries.
Personally I am more concerned about the DPRK since they likely have a nuclear missile that can reach Los Angeles or Seattle and have made threats to use such a device.
when was that?
When he first learned that they were developing nuclear weapons. He was discussing a plan for a military strike when former President Carter called President Clinton and told him that he had made progress towards a diplomatic solution. This was a great relief to President Clinton who was not eager to start a war. It was then that agreements were made to expand foreign aid to the DPRK in return for abandoning their nuclear weapons program. There was some eveidence to show that they did not completely stop the program. They also threatened Japan by launching a ballistic missile over them. Then President Bush named them as part of the famous axis of evil soon after he was elected which soured relations further. The DPRK accelerated their nuclear weapon program at that time.
Instead, we gave them fuel and food, and the North Koreans still went ahead with their nuclear program... only in secret this time.
You know, the situation between the Koreas is a cease-fire, and not a peace treaty.
Although, ever since this Korea cease-fire there has been an unending series of pictures of past Presidents staring through binoculars with the lens caps on.
Now if we just add Libya to the list we come up with the seven countries that the neocons wanted to overthrow. How many wars can we get into before the 2004 elections? Or do Wolfowitz and friends think they have the election well enough in hand that they believe they have another five years to accomplish their goals? In this unipolar world of the Bush doctrine how does anyone stop the imperial ambitions of the only superpower?
Actually, its pretty easy to stop these ambitions.
Lower taxes, less money.
Less money, less money for military adventures.
But liberals have never met a tax cut they liked. Gotta soak it to the rich! (The really rich can protect their money from high income tax rates, its the ones that want to get really rich that end up paying for these tax-the-rich schemes.)
And, no, just owning your own home does not make you really rich, but these are the people that are penalized.
bush cut taxes and then blew the pentagon's budget. now he's asking congress (i.e. taxpayers) for more $$.
bush never met a war he didn't like
Maybe we should cut more taxes. Don't give Bush any more money. Don't give Congress any more money for their pork barrel projects either.
Ha! If thats true then conservatives never met a spending cut they didn't like, or a tax that they thought was fair.