US Plane diverted because of bomb scare.

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  1. yg17 macrumors G5

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    Oh for f***'s sake. Americans are scared of their own shadow.

    I bet a plane has never been diverted because a Christian prayed while on a plane :rolleyes:
     
  2. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    Why is it that religious nutjobs think it's ok to engage in little known rituals in crowded public spaces?

    I agree that fear has gone overboard, but on a plane nobody should be forced to endure endless religious droning.
     
  3. arkitect macrumors 601

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    +1

    Don't all airports have "prayer rooms" where they can practice their weird ritual before they get on the plane?
     
  4. StruckANerve macrumors 6502

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    That's exactly what their agenda is. Scare everyone enough and they can pass whatever BS piece of legislation they want.
     
  5. yg17 macrumors G5

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    I agree, a plane is no place for it. But on the other hand, if someone does pray on a plane, it shouldn't cause a diversion and interrogation because the flight attendant has an irrational fear of the unknown.
     
  6. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Thats because christians pray to themselves for the most part, apparently this ******* brought a bunch of trinkets on board with him to perform a ritual on board a plane. Real smart.

    Pray to yourself then, no one wants you making a big scene when they paid good money to have a relaxing trip.
     
  7. StruckANerve macrumors 6502

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    There is that whole Freedom of Religion thing, you know.
     
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    Not sure. I am not sure if most airports have a pray room but all the airports I have been in always seem to have a quite place away from everyone else in the terminals. One nice thing about the terminals is when they were built they were designed with the idea that friends and family of the people arriving or leaving the airport will be out there waiting. Not now limited to ticket passages only.

    The first article posted just shows how worthless the media is. Instead it tries to make a HUGE deal out of nothing.

    The 2nd one explained what really happened. I can understand people reaction because it at from look it would look like a wire to a bomb. Now the plan diverted landing might of been a mixture of orders from the FAA and the pilot using his judgment seeing as everyone was all shaken up was to get the plane on the ground. No matter if they knew it was a bomb or not you have people on the plane would think it was and panic. Based on the more credible 2nd article posted no charges were pressed and chances are they asked him from refraining to do that on a plane again.
     
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    I'm familiar with the Jewish ritual the article says this guy was doing. I can assure you he was not making a scene. They wrap part of their arms or head with some leather thing, which is odd, but not disturbing to anyone else, and he was more than likely praying to himself and not making any noise.

    I'll be the first one to say that prayer and religion are bogus and anyone who prays is wasting their time and energy, but if someone wants to pray to themselves on a plane, they should be able to without causing a bomb scare.

    No, it doesn't look anything like a wire to a bomb. It's a leather strap, flat and a couple centimeters wide. If anything, it looks like something out of a bad S&M porno flick. The headphone cable on an iPod looks more like a piece of a bomb than this thing.

    Everyone shaken up? This flight left New York, which has the largest Jewish population in the US. I bet most of the passengers knew exactly what he was doing and weren't bothered by it because it's something they see often in NY and probably have friends or coworkers who participate in this ritual. It was probably the morons on the flight crew who aren't from NY and thought he was up to something.
     
  11. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    What about if you're a muslim, and they "have" to pray 5 times a day.

    When I flew with Emirates they announced the prayer times and direction to Mecca on the flight.

    Quite.
     
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    Exactly, there is a time and place for everything but an airplane was not the correct time or place to do this sort of thing.
     
  13. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Exactly as planned. :mad:
     
  14. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    There's a time and a place for religious inscriptions on rifle scopes too...
     
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    1. Not the same thing.
    2. Wrong thread.
     
  16. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Perhaps he was praying to get over nervousness of flying?
     
  17. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    Of course they're not the same. They're *similar* in this respect.
    LOL.. The last refuge of the defeated.
     
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    Then perhaps he should have visited the prayer room at the airport before he got on as another poster suggested. Or he could have driven, taken a bus or a train or a combination of the aforementioned. There are other ways to get around besides an airplane if your nerves are that bad.
     
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    I doubt he was doing any religious droning. In fact, there is probably more noise coming from the headphones of the passengers than what this guy was doing.

    What if it was the time for his prayer? what if he is afraid of flying? going through a personal crises?

    Considering they asked him what it is and he showed them and explained it, I say it is another flight attendant with an authority complex.

    Oh, and he was traveling with his 16 year old sister. :rolleyes:

    And he paid good money too, passengers can mind their own business as well.

    It only applies when criticizing other countries.


    The problem is that it was probably overblown by the crew before anybody else. When one of them sets their mind on something, it is over. I have seen them go nuts because someone asked a question about delays in sarcastic way, or asked for refreshments while waiting.

    Then you are probably already stopped because of your name. ;)

    Now the guy doesn't have the right to fly?

    I don't believe how much sympathy the morons who freaked out got, but the teenager gets all the blame. :rolleyes:
     
  20. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    This is so ridiculous. I used to fly to Denver monthly and there was always a big contingent of Hassidic Jews on the flights. They prayed with their little props and no one was ever bothered or disturbed about it. This was all post 9/11.

    No one should have a problem with them practicing their religion on a plane. If anything, we should be concerned with their lack of regular bathing.

    This is all our media induced hysteria (saw a poll today that 33% worried about terror on airplanes as opposed to 14% before the xmas incident). Hopefully, it dies down soon.

    I also love hoe the right has just thrown their religious beliefs out the window. I guess your terrorism beliefs outweigh them. What if it were a christian with a bible? Hmmm.
     
  21. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Uh, you've never gotten nervous once you were actually IN a certain situation? If you haven't you simply aren't human.

    This kid had every right to pray, and panicky passengers have every right to actually assess a situation rather than freak out like a bunch of ****in morons.

    This is what america has become, if you speak in a funny language or look a bit brown, surely you are out to kill us all. THINK PEOPLE, this type of pants pissing irrational fear is exactly what terrorist groups want, and its US that are falling for it. Pathetic.
     
  22. Macaddicttt macrumors 6502a

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    They call it TERRRORism for a reason. I want someone who's defending the overreaction of the crew to address this:

    Terrorism is a tactic that involves sowing fear and terror in your enemies. Please tell me how overreacting to benign actions from a teenager, due to irrational fear is not the very definition of the terrorists winning?
     
  23. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    The US effectively doesn't have any other alternative form of transport if you want to travel long distance. Except for buses in a few cases, but beyond 500km or so buses take too long to be practical. And although you can probably manage a bit more distance with a car you aren't going to get much further than say 700km in a day unless you love driving for hours on end. Hell, even high speed rail tops out at around 1500km for being a sensible alternative to flying.

    Quite, its sad we've got so obsessed about the threat from Islamic terrorism.
     
  24. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    It seems every decade has its new enemy to fear. Its like americans cant live without an enemy.
     

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