US Senator colludes with Russia to influence US election

Gjwilly

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Yes, a United States senator really did collude with the Russians to influence the outcome of a presidential election. His name was Ted Kennedy.

Picking his way through the Soviet archives that Boris Yeltsin had just thrown open, in 1991 Tim Sebastian, a reporter for the London Times came across an arresting memorandum. Composed in 1983 by Victor Chebrikov, the top man at the KGB, the memorandum was addressed to Yuri Andropov, the top man in the entire USSR. The subject: Sen. Edward Kennedy.

"On 9-10 May of this year," the May 14 memorandum explained, "Sen. Edward Kennedy’s close friend and trusted confidant [John] Tunney was in Moscow." (Tunney was Kennedy’s law school roommate and a former Democratic senator from California.) "The senator charged Tunney to convey the following message, through confidential contacts, to the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, Y. Andropov."

Kennedy’s message was simple. He proposed an unabashed quid pro quo. Kennedy would lend Andropov a hand in dealing with President Reagan. In return, the Soviet leader would lend the Democratic Party a hand in challenging Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. "The only real potential threats to Reagan are problems of war and peace and Soviet-American relations," the memorandum stated. "These issues, according to the senator, will without a doubt become the most important of the election campaign."
In 1992, Tim Sebastian published a story about the memorandum in the London Times. Here in the U.S., Sebastian’s story received no attention. In his 2006 book, The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism, historian Paul Kengor reprinted the memorandum in full. "The media," Kengor says, "ignored the revelation."

"The document," Kengor continues, "has stood the test of time. I scrutinized it more carefully than anything I’ve ever dealt with as a scholar. I showed the document to numerous authorities who deal with Soviet archival material. No one has debunked the memorandum or shown it to be a forgery. Kennedy’s office did not deny it."
https://www.forbes.com/2009/08/27/ted-kennedy-soviet-union-ronald-reagan-opinions-columnists-peter-robinson.html
 
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You mean a dilettante who should've been in jail and not Washington did something conniving with an enemy of the US to further benefit himself. My solution is since we can't put Teddy in jail let's put Donny in and not elect dilettante's anymore.

I will give Teddy credit for being smarter than Donny though, Teddy didn't start a war with people he couldn't control. Donny opened hostilities with a pocket knife, they answered with machine guns so now he cries like the testicle free dilettante he is. Donny fought the wrong battle and is now lame duck and will be until the end of his term/s.
 
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You mean a dilettante who should've been in jail and not Washington did something conniving with an enemy of the US to further benefit himself. My solution is since we can't put Teddy in jail let's put Donny in and not elect dilettante's anymore.

I will give Teddy credit for being smarter than Donny though, Teddy didn't start a war with people he couldn't control. Donny opened hostilities with a pocket knife, they answered with machine guns so now he cries like the testicle free dilettante he is. Donny fought the wrong battle and is now lame duck and will be until the end of his term/s.
Trump's only problem right now is Congress can't get their **** together. His party won the latest special elections, Republicans still hold the power.
 

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Trump's only problem right now is Congress can't get their **** together. His party won the latest special elections, Republicans still hold the power.
Trump's only problem right now is that Trump can't get his **** together. If he hadn't wasted so much time and political capital on unnecessary and unworkable EOs like that weird immigration ban, and had made a sincere effort to bring all the sides together on the first push for the Obamacare repeal & replace bill in the House last spring (rather than playing brinksmanship with the Freedom Caucus and getting burned in the end), he'd have gotten some serious legislation passed by this point. The American people want change, that much is clear; and yes, the Republican party now has the power to do just that. But Trump does not have the competence to get the job done.
 
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Trump's only problem right now is that Trump can't get his **** together. If he hadn't wasted so much time and political capital on unnecessary and unworkable EOs like that weird immigration ban, and had made a sincere effort to bring all the sides together on the first push for the Obamacare repeal & replace bill in the House last spring (rather than playing brinksmanship with the Freedom Caucus and getting burned in the end), he'd have gotten some serious legislation passed by this point. The American people want change, that much is clear; and yes, the Republican party now has the power to do just that. But Trump does not have the competence to get the job done.
Trump doesn't write the legislation, he just signs off.
 

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Trump doesn't write the legislation, he just signs off.
When Trump decides to stick his nose into the legislative process, such as trying to threaten individual members of the Freedom Caucus, or to demand last-minute changes to the budget, he is most definitely getting involved in modifying legislation. Even when he doesn't stick his nose in, he dominates the news cycle so completely (talking about Russia, or about terrorism, or about how he won the election, or about how Hillary lost the election, or the slightest trivia about the election) that there is very little room remaining to talk about anything else.
 

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When Trump decides to stick his nose into the legislative process, such as trying to threaten individual members of the Freedom Caucus, or to demand last-minute changes to the budget, he is most definitely getting involved in modifying legislation. Even when he doesn't stick his nose in, he dominates the news cycle so completely (talking about Russia, or about terrorism, or about how he won the election, or about how Hillary lost the election, or the slightest trivia about the election) that there is very little room remaining to talk about anything else.
Either way, the bill provided by congress Senate & House, was not what Trump campaigned on. He said he wasn't going to allow anyone to "die in the streets". I assumed that meant getting rid of the mandate, and providing something better.