Vacations are a human right and should be supported by taxes

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by Shivetya, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. Shivetya macrumors 65816

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  2. barkomatic macrumors 68040

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    While I believe that everyone should be entitled to vacation time, actually taxing people to pay for other's trips is insane. If you're unemployed in Europe, you are not only getting a salary and healthcare but free or low cost trips as well. Who would want to work again?

    At any rate, I'd like to see this story reported by other sources. These types of sensational headlines often leave out important details. . .
     
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    I agree. It seems wholly implausible.
     
  4. splitpea macrumors 6502a

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    Occasional time off work seems to me to be almost a human right (although I'm not sure it's one I'd want to pay for for other people other than as we already do through the cost of goods and services). Not a fundamental right, but something that is crucial to sanity and cruel to deprive someone of entirely.

    However, travel is more than a bit of a stretch.
     
  5. leekohler macrumors G5

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    I have a difficult time believing this would ever get majority support.
     
  6. djellison macrumors 68020

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    Reasonable time off per annum for R&R - yeah - that's a given.

    Actually giving state funding for people to go on holiday?

    NO. That's outrageous.
     
  7. H00513R macrumors 6502a

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    No, I don't think it's a right. I'm tired of paying for other people as it is - get rid of long-term welfare and don't subsidize healthcare. What happened people working for something and saving for it?? Now all people want to do is stay at home playing their xBox and surfing... :rolleyes:
     
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    Yes, how dare someone have a heart attack or get cancer without saving up to pay for it first! :rolleyes:
     
  9. zap2 macrumors 604

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    Exactly....who do these people think they are, getting loans for houses? And loans for college?! Craziness, get a job and save up!!;)
     
  10. remmy macrumors 6502a

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    Yer can't they get their parents to pay for this
     
  11. mactastic macrumors 68040

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    This actually hearkens back to a question I asked yesterday: Where do rights come from? Are your rights dependent upon the founding documents of the nation in which you reside?

    Or are there rights that those of oppressed nations actually have even if they aren't recognized by their leaders? And if so, what is the basis of those rights?
     
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    When I was in the Navy we received 2 weeks paid leave every year. And it was paid for by US taxes.
     
  13. Peterkro macrumors 68020

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    Somewhat slanted reporting:

    Facilitating the access to holidays to groups with impaired mobility or those who are socially and/or economically disadvantaged, promoting at the same time a better and more prolonged use of tourist infrastructures, the maintenance of tourist activity in the regions for longer periods, and a strengthening of the feeling of European citizenship

    http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/news...lay&doc_id=5746&userservice_id=1&request.id=0

    Personally I think it's a good idea and well worth looking into.
     
  14. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    Antonio Tajani is a Commissioner of Enterprise and Industry and was appointed by Silvio Berlusconi. Antonio was also a founding member along with Silvio of Forza Italia

    While I didn't find any hints of malfeasance on Antonio's part, his plan has the scent of American Corporate Pork Barrel Politics more than it does classic European socialism.

    In other words, it seems to be a handout to European tour operators and mostly to the sunny countries lining the Mediterranean. Surprise, surprise.
     
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    Remuneration isn't the only reason people work. In fact although it's often not colloquially recognised as such, there are many other factors important to self-esteem, socialisation, and good mental health that working fulfils. Not working for the vast majority of people is a miserable existence.
     
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    This is for disabled people,elderly people and kids who are going off the rails and could benefit from seeing there's more to life than crime plus it will amount to a thirty percent subsidy on trips.It is also only a proposal.

    People make up society,you help people you help society, I realise it's not dog eat dog capitalism but it makes sense to me.
     
  18. flopticalcube macrumors G4

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    I thought they were doing this for years in the UK with young offenders?
     
  19. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Yeah, the disconnect is where someone in the EU gets a fairly far-fetched idea for a government program, and this becomes immediate proof of the disaster towards which our country is heading because President Obama is socializing America. Oh, wait, did I say that out loud?
     
  20. H00513R macrumors 6502a

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    This would fall under "working for something." I hope you're not one of the people I'm paying for with my tax dollars. If so, then get a job! ;)

    Loans are great for people who can pay them back. A perfectly viable option. It's the people who are working fast food and expect to drive a new car and have a 1/2 million dollar house because "Darnit! I just want it!" that need to be smacked. Life isn't fair.
     
  21. H00513R macrumors 6502a

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    You were a government employee. ;)
     
  22. Peterkro macrumors 68020

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    Yes there are some groups who do this and with good results,it's not however as wide spread as the tabloids would have you believe.
     
  23. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    I presume you make do without house and travel insurance as well...
     
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    I presume you make do without house and travel insurance as well...

    Well quite. It also doesn't seem like the proposed trips are particularly ambitious, you aren't getting 2 weeks in Tahiti subsidised by 30%.
     
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    Heh... couldn't have said it better myself.
     

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