Van drives into crowd of people in London

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  1. zin macrumors 6502

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    Just happened a few minutes ago. Police say there are a number of casualties.
     
  2. ThisBougieLife macrumors 65816

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    Saw the CNN alert. New normal. Pretty numb to this stuff now. Hope the casualty numbers are low.
     
  3. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    Unfortunately this is something that we can't do anything about unless we give up a lot more freedoms than it is worth.
     
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    Then what, if "we can't do anything"?

    Shall we sit around and peace-pipe-pontificate liberal ideals?
     
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    Romans 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
     
  7. deany macrumors 68030

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    Looks like it could have been an Islamaphobic terrorist attack at Finsbury Park Mosque.

    Hope eveyone is okay.
     
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    maybe we should do the conservative's ideas card them muslims round them up into camps trail them. what is really going to work? how do you stop drivers?
     
  9. Populism macrumors regular

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    Why did you bring up Muslims, Steve Knight?

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    Was probably more Russian interference.
     
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    Thoughts with the victims.
    As usual I will refrain from discussing this until more is known.
     
  11. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    why because everyone on the right assumes in and don't lie about it. Now how would you stop it?
     
  12. yaxomoxay macrumors 68000

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    I won't discuss neither the specific event, or the political implications of the part I didn't quote.
    But to answer your question: same way we do with all other crimes such as murder, rape, etc.
    Analysis, community policing, work, harder work.
    We might not stop 100% of it, but we will still relentlessly work towards that goal.
     
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    Really? Anti Islamic push back.......who would have thought. The nuts are coming out on both sides. Will be interesting when airliner is crashed into the Mecca cube. What a mess......21st century crusades. We might not need an asteroid to start over with new dominant species infesting the planet.
     
  14. yaxomoxay macrumors 68000

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    I suggest to wait before saying what could've happened.
     
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    Didn't a democrat round up the Japanese ?

    Anyways hope there are no casualties
     
  16. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    maybe you should take a history class huh? seems you have been told about dems and republicans changing sides enough times but never sunk in huh?
     
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    Sometimes I just wanna mute the usual suspects.

    Though to be fair, these threads are essentially all the same: death, thoughts and prayers, blame, promises, Muslims, Obama, Trump, immigrants, do nothing, rinse, repeat.
     
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    We should just go on with our lives and it worry too much about it.
     
  19. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    What's your alternative? As mrkramer said, you'd have to trade away freedom just for the possibility that something would work. But since terrorism can be carried out with something as ubiquitous as an automobile, the amount of freedom lost would likely be too severe.

    But again, if you (or anyone else) have some ideas, feel free to present them.

    My preference is to treat these events as crimes. Punish the perpetrators (if they've survived) and root out networks. Otherwise, endure them.
     
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    Post. Lots of them covering sidewalks
     
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    To get back on subject...it looks like it was a white guy who ran over a bunch of Muslim worshipers leaving services at a mosque. Sad, indeed. Here's hoping it was just an accident, but given the proclivities of certain groups in England I am not putting aside the thought that it could have been a racially/religiously motivated crime.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...rk-mosque-muslims-seven-sisters-a7796551.html
     
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    If true, he's a terrorist and should be treated as such.
     
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    I thought white guys can't be terrorists they are just crazy?
     
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    Yep. No issues with that at all.
     

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