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Discussion in 'Current Events' started by taeclee99, Mar 27, 2003.
Truly an outrage....
Here's a photo.
a vandal is a vandal, prosecute and hangem by their balls!
Today in my city a saw a poster with the Statue Of Liberty but in place of a face it had and scult, very traumatic and sick. It was made by a socialist mouvment.
it's sad that people will resort to this, they are no better than anyone else, I mean it's like those idiots that were at a peace rally and started harrasing the police and even used mace, what morons, its a friggin PEACE rally!
Yeah I don't understand "peace" rallies were the protesters are throwing rocks at police and breaking public property. Can we say hypocrits.
I do not mind the people protesting the war. I do not agree with them but if the want to spend their time sitting on the ground yeling slogans thats their right. This type of incident and the violence that some have perpetrated at the rallies is hypocrytical and only hurts their cause. I saw a protestor in the US the other day that had made a poster portraying Bush as Hitler and a swasticha under it. This completely idiotic type of protest is out of touch with reality and, at least in my case, makes me far less likely to support their cause (not that i would in this case anyway). Several other protestors were waving to the camera and seemed to be far more concerned with getting their face on television and saying hello to their friends than supporting a cause. These type of people do not even know why they are protesting, they just want to participate in something or rebel against their parents views (I say this because the majority of the war protestors have been young).
the statue of liberty thing bothers me much less than the commemorative plaque... i mean, that's kinda just trying to take away from the memory of the people that died.... pretty pathetic
as for violent peace rallies... as someone who's against the war, i agree with you all. that is hypocritical.
I was at a very peaceful peace rallie here in bristol las satruday night and also last thursday night.
The thursday one was huge, and the saturday one was much smaller and we sat down instead of marching like thursday.
On saturday, at about 10.30 a group of lager lads congregated after coming out of the pub and started shouting and swearing things like "kill em all", "bomb the f*ckers". That is the meantality we are dealing with, they are obviously for the war but don't have the brains to realise thats not what the war is trying to achieve, although it ironically seems that they are getting what they want. Don't get me wrong, I respect other people's opinion's but when people lack the brains to even consider making a decent argument, then those people don't deserve to have an opinion.
Anyway, the police had to move us on and there were at least two cops per protestor on saturday, and they got nasty very quickly when all we did was stand quietly, they started getting nasty. I got some pictures which i hope to get developed onto photo CD and I'll post them on my .mac as soon as I do.
As for the Statue and plaque being destroyed, I expect it was done by some similar lager louts in France, only becuase the popular opinion in France is to be anti-american regardless of your stance on the war. To automatically assume it was peace protestors is absurd.
such rallies have a myriad of groups represented and all types of people at them. every one has a group of anarchists who are there, i think, solely to make trouble.
the vast majority of the people there have good intentions. it's heartening to see parents w/ their kids, folks in their 70s, businessmen who've just gotten off work.
it pisses me off to see a bunch of drunk bastards slam dancing and itching to get themselves arrested.
a few bad apples...
Sick, just absolutely sick.
Maybe this is more France bashing...given the statue's origins.
Hell, if we really want to have some fun with this, maybe people trying to give the protestors a bad reputation are commiting the vandalism.
Nah, couldn't be.
The statue of Liberty
was a gift from france, actualy burning it right now is a very american thing to do(said with much sarcasm)
You are right. Most of the people at the rallies have good intentions. Its the motley crew of communists, anarchists, facists, victicrats and weekend golfers that make the peace movement look bad.
Re: The statue of Liberty
yeah, i've been saying that if we want to be consistent (c.f. freedom fries), we should send the thing back. (yes, the symbolism behind it being the statue of _liberty_ is intentional)
that'll show 'em!
Amen, clearly those people have alternative agendas.
I don't think so. They're angry and bitter that their efforts are being ignored. It's a natural reaction from young, politically energetic protesters. I don't see an alternative agenda.
Let me guess: you think they're all commies, right?
i think he means just the ones who are throwing rocks and spraying mace (probably less than 1%). "those wacky anarchists," as i call them.
Hopefully they will find out who the vandals are, and prosecute them.
What the vandals did is ridiculous. What is wrong with them?
Just a little remark for the "anti-french" people in this forum. All the others shall ignore this post!
i just want to tell you, it were the french, who made you a big gift some long time ago, you guess right, it s the miss liberty i m talking of...
So why are you just raising your voice to tell the people there are vandals making a joke of your "statue of liberty" after all, it s a sign, the us and europe, mostly france have been great, and mighty allies all the last 300 years.... you should not forget all that.
If you are still not convinced, not to talk anymore against france, just forget about the statue of liberty, it can t be important to you, as it is / was french.
Another point is, some of you are talking without knowing what they are talking about... There is an argument running around, that europe namely france and germany are not thanking america for the effort the us dd in WWII. Otherwise here the NSDAP, and the nazis would be on the power.
The point i want to come to is, they helped the american people also, it s certainly much earlier in time, namely during the independence wars, when brisith troops were fighting against the us, france helped you.
So please stop blaming them. I m not french, and i don t want to be ( love luxembourg to much ) but hey, stop that pupil stuff, of telling they are dumbasses or anything like that.
Hey, I don't care who made it, she is lady liberty. She is ours. We don't have a problem with the French people, just the Chirac government. They are the problem, not the French people
Where have I heard THAT before? Isn't that statement a preamble to invasion?
Are there any French citizens who can comment on this: From my point of view, it seems that Chirac was elected more as a kneejerk reaction to the possibility that le Pen might actually have a chance at being elected (he got as far as the runoff right?). The French people whom I know are not supporters of Chirac and view him to be a president who is not supported by most of the french people. They saw Chirac to be the only alternative to le Pen and his Front National party, who they did not like because of his anti-semitic and xenophobic stances. Also, isn't the president of France elected for a 7 year term?