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Was thinking we could collect som glitches and user interface quirks in macOS Ventura that don't really break things, but makes the experience less enjoyable.

Here are a few of my findings since going from Monterey to Ventura 13.1 the other day (some of these things was also present in Monterey):

1. Jumpy/hitchy movement of windows seems fixed since Ventura 13.3!

Fixed (until it happens again…) by unplugging and reseating the USB-C cable to the display I use. Or chance (back and forth) of the refresh rate or resolution in System Settings > Displays.

I tried to do a screen recording of this using QuickTIme Player, but see it only captures 30 frames per second it was no good – looked as choppy on both videos. I'll try to make a recording of this when I get the chance so you can see what I mean.

I just came to think of that I posted videos here of how it was in Monterey. It's the similar type of hitchy movement I sometimes see in Ventura:


The jumpy cursor I haven't seen in Venture.

2. Mouse/trackpad pointer doesn't always update properly depending on what's underneath in Stage Manager.

This is classic problem in MacOS compared to Windows in my opinion. One doesn't seldom get the text selection pointer instead of the arrow pointer over objects where one definitely don't want to have the text selection pointer. Easy to reproduce in Stage Manager like in this screen recording:





3. Custom desktop background set not always seen at the log in screen when waking computer from sleep.​

Instead the default Ventura desktop background is shown. Seems to happen very randomly as most of the time the custom desktop is show.

Ventura_default.png


Locking the computer (without logging in) and waking it again gave me my custom desktop image:

Custom_background.png


4. Lack of a coherent spell correction working in all apps.​

In ”native” apps (such as Text Edit and Notes) it works well with the built-in spell correction. But in apps such as Slack (Electron) it seems to recognize a word as being spelt incorrectly as in that it underlines it with a red line but when right-clicking there is no suggestion of a word to replace it. For example if I type Can’td it will get underlined with a red line, but a right-click gives not suggestion. If I correct it to Can't the red line goes away, so macOS knows the word has been corrected. Why not then show the correct word as a suggestion in the contextual menu (right-click)?

5. Missing option to do RGB via HDMI from macOS​

The option om tvOS should also be available in macOS as using YCbCr isn't always preferable and makes non-TV displays look pretty bad when connected via HDMI. How come it's not an option in macOS?

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More to be added when discovered. :)
 
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This alert in the settings app will not go away on my 13" M1 MacBook Pro. I added recovery contracts and set up the key on my iPhone yesterday. Today I undid everything and set them back up on my Mac, and this is still showing up. Settings app has a persistent notification bubble on it.
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the problem with this is... not everyone has the same experiences. a bug list is useful; the problems that are universal; and there are already sticky threads here for those things.

but what you're calling 'glitches' are not all universal. and the boot screen has been locked by apple for some time; not a glitch, a choice made by them.
 
the problem with this is... not everyone has the same experiences. a bug list is useful; the problems that are universal; and there are already sticky threads here for those things.

but what you're calling 'glitches' are not all universal. and the boot screen has been locked by apple for some time; not a glitch, a choice made by them.
You are right – there should be a way to reproduce the problem. There can be various factors to the problem one is experiencing that others don't. But some things are coherently glitchy. Mouse/trackpad pointer not always updating depending on what's underneath.

That about the ”boot screen” as you call it does't seem like a choice made by Apple to me, simply because it is inconsistent. It's one thing that it's the Ventura background when starting up and not being logged in, but are you saying they deliberately decided to most of the time show your custom desktop when locking/sleeping the computer (after having logged in) and then waking it up, but sometimes; let show the default Ventura desktop picture? 🤔
 
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That about the ”boot screen” as you call it does't seem like a choice made by Apple to me, simply because it is inconsistent. It's one thing that it's the Ventura background when starting up and not being logged in, but are you saying they deliberately decided to most of the time show your custom desktop when locking/sleeping the computer (after having logged in) and then waking it up, but sometimes; let show the default Ventura desktop picture? 🤔
issues that not everyone has are...issues, worth resolving, not universal bugs or glitches.

the screen shows your desktop photo if you lock it. but it shows the default apple screen on startup or logging back in; this is not new to ventura.
 
issues that not everyone has are...issues, worth resolving, not universal bugs or glitches.

the screen shows your desktop photo if you lock it. but it shows the default apple screen on startup or logging back in; this is not new to ventura.
Yes, I know that if you restart or log out the Ventura desktop background is shown until you select an account to login to which makes the background switch to the background set for that particular account. This I'm okay with – it's coherent. What I'm talking about is after being logged in to an account and then locking/sleeping the computer. At that stage one should always get the custom set background upon wake of the computer, and while that is mostly the case it' snot always the case.
 
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Yes, I know that if you restart or log out the Ventura desktop background is shown until you select an account to login to which makes the background switch to the background set for that particular account. This I'm okay with – it's coherent. What I'm talking about is after being logged in to an account and then locking/sleeping the computer. At that stage one should always get the custom set background upon wake of the computer, and while that is mostly the case it' snot always the case.
i never log out, but i lock the screen when i take my macbook air out, or it locks if i'm away over an hour. i always see my custom screen when i go to sign back in...
 
i never log out, but i lock the screen when i take my macbook air out, or it locks if i'm away over an hour. i always see my custom screen when i go to sign back in...
Exactly how I do it. And I mostly get the custom screen when waking the computer, but not always.

But if you mean that you get the custom screen after having logged in with touch-ID or password, that always work for me too. I mean just after waking the computer (in a logged in, but locked state) and it's asking for your password – that's when I occationally get the Ventura screen but shouldn't.
 
Exactly how I do it. And I mostly get the custom screen when waking the computer, but not always.

But if you mean that you get the custom screen after having logged in with touch-ID or password, that always work for me too. I mean just after waking the computer (in a logged in, but locked state) and it's asking for your password – that's when I occationally get the Ventura screen but shouldn't.
doesn't happen here. but doesn't seem too serious... report it to apple.
 
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My First Monterey-Ventura snafu this year!

while trying to combine 7 video into 1 long one or something like that,
|QuickTime crashed in Ventura, MacBook Air 2020 M1 8GB
I was using iMovie as well

oh well!
 
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My First Monterey-Ventura snafu this year!

while trying to combine 7 video into 1 long one or something like that,
|QuickTime crashed in Ventura, MacBook Air 2020 M1 8GB
I was using iMovie as well

oh well!
have you rebooted? imovie seems a good place to do that... 👍
 
Interesting observations, thank you, @star-affinity. I will have to pay closer attention. I took a ten-year break from macOS (last Mac was the first Retina MacBook Pro back in 2012) but now I’m just getting back into it after picking up a base MacBook Air M1 in October. :)

Are you running the 13.2 beta?
 
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Interesting observations, thank you, @star-affinity. I will have to pay closer attention. I took a ten-year break from macOS (last Mac was the first Retina MacBook Pro back in 2012) but now I’m just getting back into it after picking up a base MacBook Air M1 in October. :)

Are you running the 13.2 beta?

Welcome back! :)

I'm on the release version of 13.1 (22C65) on a 13" M1 MacBook Pro.
I won't jump to a beta version of macOS in the first place on this machine as I use it heavily for work.
 
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am on the 13.2 beta, and the option to open a weblink with another browser is still greyed out (but again, right-clicking on a link and selecting your browser of choice is a really simple workaround!).
 
issues that not everyone has are...issues, worth resolving, not universal bugs or glitches.
Why does it cause you such mental anguish that other people don't share your personal definitions "bug", "issue", "glitch" etc? You post quite literally hundreds of these """corrections""".
 
Why does it cause you such mental anguish that other people don't share your personal definitions "bug", "issue", "glitch" etc? You post quite literally hundreds of versions of this.
hundreds? 😳

i would think less, but if you're actually keeping track: why does it cause you mental anguish that i do that? and there is a difference between a 'bug' and an 'issue'. am simply happy to point that out.


EDIT: one thing you will find in the hundreds (i mean, i've been here since 2010): me, trying to help people resolve issues. seems you should count the 'good' posts as well as the 'critical' posts....
 
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How's Ventura working for people now?

The first problem I posted about in my intial post is fixed since Ventura 13.3 – at least I haven't noticed it since that update. The rest of the stuff is still there as of Ventura 13.4.
 
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