Very interesting. . . And I thought this was a Mac Forum. . .


macrumors newbie
Original poster
Dec 2, 2002
Well, I just read through all the threads in this discussion for the past hour, and it's been interesting. I've been a mac user ever since having a IIci when I was in kindergarten and have not looked back, ever. All I can say is that Apple products have never been better. Admittedly, Apple's unsuccessful attempt at becoming a major industrial giant like IBM by inviting a big-name president, as well as the series of dissappointing execs, ruined Apple for a good part of the 90's. You could see it directly through a bloated product line that was largely overpriced, inefficient, and confusing to the consumer. On top of it, it's OS was becomming largely inefficient as build piled on build. It had simply lost it's identity as an innovative, more humanistic computer company. I think Steve Jobs learned this lesson the hard way, but it made his return to Apple tenfold successful. He brought back the innovation necessary to keep Apple afloat, as well as learning to behave more like a businessman than a guru.
With this in mind, here's my take on where the OS war currently stands. In Apple's defence, the current OS is by far the best thing that has happened to the Mac platform. It's kernel was not developed solely by Apple's own programmers, and had the input of UNIX and Mac programmers around the world. It's the most user friendly to new users (and that is key, especially since the computer market has yet reach a saturation point) without sacrificing accessibility by the UNIX savvy. Since Unix is arguably the lead OS for web servers, the inclusion of a terminal is a blessing. Mac OS will continue to be cutting edge because the use of such open-source standards. On top of the important unix technology, Apple is letting everybody in on the bandwagon with a things they pioneered such as Firewire, WiFi, and Rendezvous. I don't see M$ doing such things. It has to be big-business' way, or no way. They merely play the catch-up game.
The point has been raised that OS X is luggish on slower machines, especially G3s. If you can run XP on a slow PII, and you're satisfied, go with it. I just pity you can't afford a decent G4 to run Jaguar. It's pretty lame to argue the strength of an OS when you are using outdated (300mhz, give me a break!) hardware to compare the two. Mac OS 10.2 runs excellently on current and recent hardware, and that's how it should be evaluated. The OS NEVER crashes. Not, "The OS NEVER crashes. . . well, sorta" as in Windows. I have a score of friends who are switching to Mac next computer purchase for this reason.
More will join this crowd if they are properly informed about the direction M$ is planning to take with the inclusion of Palladium technology. It is blatant privacy invasion and a squemish attempt by M$ to protect the investments of big wig corporations and their own petards. They have ranted about Copyrights for years, not because they care for the right of the intellectual property of artists and musicians, but because they themselves are losing money from pirated copies of their OS. To give a monopolistic giant like M$ the ability to filter and see what is on your computer is utterly revolting.
But OS X and Apple aren't perfect. Although I think Apple has good headway in bringing Unix network administrators and programmers over to the Mac, it still needs a push to get the consumer market going. Sad to say this, but games are the missing link as of now. There are thousands of great games that are written for Winblows, but the Apple selection is still lame, especially for new games. Mac OS X is a great OS for games, and Apple needs to encourage developers to tap into it. If they do so, the large generation brought up on games will adopt the Mac. The Mass doesn't care about things like scalability and overhead. As long as their games and Office programs work, they're happy. Things like movie making and listening to music on a computer are what interest people. Right now, Winblows blows for these more creative things. If OS X can bring in the gamers, they'll make headway in the future.
This article is really biased, so reply for some lively discussion! :D


Jul 9, 2000
i have no beef with os x, even on current G3 chips

it is just that from the beta to jaguar, it was a long, long time

apple could have been a giant but steve jobs' personality was more guru than businessman

the war was lost long before steve jobs got fired from had little to do with later ceos

the war would have been won before ms and dos proliferation