Veterans of Foreign Wars responds to Obama's unprovoked & grievous insult.

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  1. aaronvan Suspended

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    'During a speech in Elkhart, Ind., the president said “I'm concerned when I watch the direction of our politics. I mean, we have been hearing this story for decades — tales about welfare queens, talking about takers, talking about the 47 percent. It's the story that's broadcast every day on some cable news stations, on rightwing radio. It's pumped into cars and bars and VFW halls all across America, and right here in Elkhart. And if you're hearing that story all the time, you start believing it. It's no wonder people think big government is the problem. No wonder public support for unions is so low. No wonder that people think the deficit has gone up under my presidency when it's actually gone down.”'

    The VFW responds:

    http://www.vfw.org/News-and-Events/Articles/2016-Articles/VFW-to-Obama--‘No-Confused-Politics-Here’/
     
  2. thewitt macrumors 68020

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    This president has no respect for the military - past or present - and no respect for the nation. He's the BSer in Chief and plays his part every day.

    Legacy? The worst president since Jimmy Carter.
     
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    The US Debt Clock says that that’s a lie: 2008 $362 billion; 2016 $509 billion. Anyone have information that supports Obama’s assertion?

    http://usdebtclock.org/2008.html

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  4. Robisan macrumors 6502

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    Looking forward to cars and bars throwing similar hissy fits...

    ...also, too, "grievous?" Ahahahahahaha! What a drama queen.
     
  5. chown33 macrumors 604

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    The distinction is between deficit (the annual shortfall) and debt (the cumulative shortfall).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States
    The terms national deficit and national surplus usually refer to the federal government budget balance from year to year, not the cumulative total. A deficit year increases the debt because more money is spent than is received; a surplus year decreases the debt because more money is received than spent.​




     
  6. FieldingMellish, Jun 2, 2016
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    Obama has been a detriment to America and there are those who prefer it that way.
     
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    OK. The deficit is higher, as is government spending. The debt is nearly doubled. Obama: fail.
     
  8. caesarp macrumors 6502a

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    Where did he insult anyone? What is false? Be specific. Is FOX not available everywhere including VFW halls?

    He didn't say VFW people are dumb. If that's how they took it, that's on them.
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    Based on what facts exactly do u make these statements. When Obama awarded 13 medals of honor, when he greeted returning Afghan vets?

    http://www.newindianexpress.com/photos/nation/article508842.ece

    Or maybe you are thinking of Trump who called a former POW a loser.
     
  9. FieldingMellish Suspended

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    You have questions. Here's you answer.

    Higbie: Obama Disliked, Distrusted by Military

    "President Barack Obama has damaged the U.S. armed forces and earned their lasting contempt by tampering with their traditions and letting the security gains they fought for in Iraq and Afghanistan unravel, a former Navy SEAL who fought in Iraq told Newsmax TV on Monday.

    By imposing new social policies on a force governed by customs, and by turning his back on Middle Eastern countries that thousands of Americans died trying to secure, Obama "has greatly destabilized the fighting force," Carl Higbie, author of "Battle on the Home Front: a Navy SEAL's Mission to Save the American Dream,"told "MidPoint" host Ed Berliner."

    Higbie sounded unsurprised by the president's poor approval rating — 15 percent — in a poll published in December by Military Times.

    He said the widespread dislike for this commander in chief arises not just from his decision to arbitrarily send women into combat and repeal the "don't-ask-don't-tell" policy on sexual orientation, but from a strong sense that Obama doesn't have the military's back

    http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/619449
     
  10. caesarp macrumors 6502a

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    HIgbie is one person. Does he speak for the millions of armed forces personnel? And dislike of Obamas policies is not the same as Obama "has no respect" for the military. Thanks for trying though.
     
  11. FieldingMellish Suspended

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    I'll help your reading miscomprehension by repeating something you apparently missed.

    "Higbie sounded unsurprised by the president's poor approval rating — 15 percent — in a poll published in December by Military Times. "
     
  12. caesarp macrumors 6502a

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    Again, a poor approval rating is not equivalent to Obama has no respect for the military. He can have respect for the military, but they may still not like him. But thanks for playing.
     
  13. FieldingMellish Suspended

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    Understandable you do not accept that Obama is hated by America's military. First, you doubt it. When given proof, you doubt that as well. I am satisfied that you're proven wrong and that you will never admit it, but thanks for asking for proof anyway.
     
  14. caesarp, Jun 2, 2016
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    I don't doubt nor care. Nor was the question whether the military hates Obama. It was whether Obama has no respect for the military. Do you see the difference? Maybe that explains why you like Trump.
    Also, Most people who hate Obama have no facts as to why, but simply spout talking points they heard on TV or saw in their uncles chain email.

    OBama seems to be a reasonable, well educated and moderate type president. Not sure what the hate is all about. Has he pushed your grandmother downstairs or taken away your ball. What's your problem? Really, explain. What are the specifics for your hate. What has Obama done to you? I can't wait to hear this.
     
  15. FieldingMellish, Jun 2, 2016
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    Obama hates America and has governed with that as a guiding principal.
     
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    Obama is very uncomfortable in the presence of the military and other masculine individuals. He is very at ease in the company of Ellen and the girls on The View.
     
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    Yes Indeed!

    Although it's hotly contested, if Hussein was born in the USA, it certainly doesn't show. He fails... Completely FAILS to display any patriotism. His powerful influence over gullible supporters has convinced them that the USA isn't, and never has been a Great Nation.

    Yes these social degenerates that are the "takers" playing helpless victims... some while living off Mommy and Daddy... are burying themselves in debt.

    Emotional debt.
    Financial debt.
    Intellectual debt.

    Moving through life adrift like a ship without a rudder, it'll be years before they regain any sense of purpose, any sense of direction. It's a shocking sight to behold.
     
  18. A.Goldberg macrumors 68000

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    How can you say such things about Obama. He won a Nobel Prize. How many other POTUS have won a Nobel Prize? There's your proof that he is, on the contrary, the best president the US has ever had.




    :rolleyes:
     
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    That's a remarkable statement to say about any sitting President. If you thought it out, you'd see how ridiculous it is. I didn't like a few Presidents in my lifetime - but I am sure none of them hated America. WTF?
     
  20. unlinked macrumors 6502a

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    Strange that 2001 had a surplus but increased the debt then.
    I guess they are leaving something out of the deficit calculation in order to make it look better than it is.
     
  21. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Wow, the stupid is so great in this thread, it hurts.

    We have posters who don't know the difference between the debt and the deficit. We have others with homoerotic fantasies about Obama. We also have that old Nobel Peace Prize ******** as if he bestowed it upon himself. Of course we all know that only the Republicans care about the military and veterans.

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  22. unlinked macrumors 6502a

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    What is H.R. 1511 Torture Veterans & Victims Relief? I can't seem to find the text online. Can you provide a link to it?
     
  23. caesarp macrumors 6502a

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    What facts do you have to support your statement that Obama "hates" America?
     
  24. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Debt and deficit are two different things....
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    Your fragile masculinity is showing...
     
  25. chown33 macrumors 604

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    The one-sentence summary was simplified. Read the link provided with the graph.
    Intuitively, the annual budget deficit should represent the amount added to the national debt.[51] However, there are certain types of spending ("supplemental appropriations") outside the budget process which are not captured in the deficit computation, which also add to the national debt. Prior to 2009, spending for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan was often funded through special appropriations excluded from the budget deficit calculation.​
     

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