Victory in the Senate!

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  1. dime21 macrumors 6502

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    http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/04/politics/election-day-story/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    The people have spoken! This is quite promising for 2016. Interestingly, the House saw such significant gains as well, that it's a new post-WW2 record. Well done GOP, bravo. :cool:
     
  2. Technarchy macrumors 604

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    I tried to explain on this forum more than once that these tides are cyclical, and don't read into it too much.

    But Nooooooooo. All we hear are these proclamations of this great enduring 100 year progressive liberal DNC reich where the GOP can't win anything.

    And here we are.

    And even going in this direction, doesn't mean anything. The tides will change again in a few years when the RNC gets drunk on power and stupid.
     
  3. DakotaGuy macrumors 68040

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    Your exactly right. I also remember reading the prediction on these forums not very long ago that the GOP would never hold power again... The cycle begins once again.
     
  4. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    People were saying for demographic reasons that the GOP wouldn't win the presidency. That remains to be seen.
     
  5. APlotdevice macrumors 68040

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    A cycle which will continue until the empire finally collapses.
     
  6. Technarchy macrumors 604

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    "Demographics," aren't fixed things. Opinions and positions change daily.

    One high profile murder or rape case, or a robbery can change thousands of minds. One case of police brutality can do the same. As can one inept president.

    That's how it is possible for the GOP to clean up notoriously blue states as governors and reps.

    The GOP has controlled the White House for 20 elected years after Nixon, and back then many also proclaimed the GOP dead and unelectable.
     
  7. Technarchy macrumors 604

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    Yep.

    People better get accustomed to viewing these things pragmatically rather than dogmatically.

    Not like either party gives two ***** about you or me anyway.
     
  8. mudslag macrumors regular

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    Who ever said that was an idiot. Politics is nothing more then a seesaw, both sides take turns being at the top/bottom.
     
  9. APlotdevice macrumors 68040

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    "Both sides"... that's a big part of the problem right there. (ie. Practically all the power in this country is held by just two parties)
     
  10. Eraserhead, Nov 5, 2014
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    Obama has been fairly unimpressive. However the mid terms usually swing more republican.

    Presumably because presumably the local GOP is saner in those blue states.
     
  11. iBlazed macrumors 68000

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    Gay marriage is still legal and you can't do anything about it and neither can your right wing friends. Sorry, had to rain on your parade and rub some salt in your freshly open wound. :D

    Oh, and they still don't have a veto proof majority to get anything done over the president's wishes anyway. So congrats, your party has a majority and yet are still completely castrated and limited in what they can do. And I wouldn't be banking on 2016 if I were you, you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. Enjoy the 2014 table scraps.
     
  12. iBlazed macrumors 68000

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    True. A Massachusetts republican would be considered a democrat in most red states. Elections are all about brand loyalty, and this year, just two years after reelecting Obama in a landslide, the (D) brand has taken a beating. It was no surprise and says absolutely nothing about what will happen in 2 years. So hopefully the republicans don't count their chickens before they hatch and fall asleep at the wheel for the next 2 years.

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  13. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    Last gasp of the Republicans as their power begins to wane. They'll either have to face the inevitable decline in their relative popularity as older people die, or they will have to change their policies in order to appeal to the segment of the population they antagonise and disadvantage.
     
  14. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Well unless they actually manage to govern and/or the democrats in the senate massively overuse the filibuster.
     
  15. NickG420 macrumors regular

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    Or if this young liberal generation grows to be conservatives themselves....

    What's the old saying?

    "If you are not liberal when you are young you don't have a heart; if you are not conservative when you get older you don't have a brain"

    Something like that anyway...
     
  16. danpass macrumors 68020

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    Let us hope this this session has the balls to do what the Clinton era sessions would not.



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  17. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604

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    I wonder how this congress will be any different than the rest. Will this congress be the one to try and halt climate change?
     
  18. Plutonius, Nov 5, 2014
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    I think this election was all about how Harry Reid didn't run things in the senate. The republicans now have two years to show they can do a better job running the senate and vote on the backlog of bills.

    That's the way the government is supposed to work. It's the president's prerogative to agree / disagree with a bill but, it's congresses job to actually vote on the bills.
     
  19. SwiftLives macrumors 65816

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    In 2016, there will be 10 Democrats and 24 Republicans defending their seats. This year, it was pretty much the exact opposite of that.

    Turnout is usually significantly higher for Presidential elections. And, for whatever reason, higher turnout seems to favor the Democrats.

    Since 1992, Republicans have won the popular vote for President once.

    All statistics and historical data aside, I think a lot of 2016 will depend on what all the GOP controlled house and senate can—or can't accomplish over the next 2 years. Are they going to put forth reasonable legislation and work with Obama, or are they going to try another 50 times to repeal the ACA?
     
  20. Naimfan macrumors 601

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    The latter.
     
  21. Lord Blackadder, Nov 5, 2014
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    I don't see anything changing until 2016, and perhaps not even then. The Republicans proved last night that they can beat Democrats in Republican-leaning states. Fair enough.

    But the do-nothing trend will continue, however radical the rhetoric may be. Talk is cheap. Action has become prohibitively expensive, apparently.

    Republicans have already forgotten that, despite being in the minority, they effectively blocked just about everything the Democrats tried to do in Congress and the White house. Two can play at that game, for better or worse.
     
  22. Huntn macrumors P6

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    The GOP can't help themselves either even when they have insiders advising them of the path forward to broader acceptability from the last Presidential election. They still push an agenda that that will eventually bite them in the ass, at least I hope it does. :confused:
     
  23. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    That's all you hear?

    Could it be you're not listening very well?

    These predictions from just last week counter your assertion ...



    But Nooooooooo ... only you are wise enough to have seen it coming or understand the cyclical nature of politics.

    :rolleyes:
     
  24. Plutonius macrumors 604

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    What universe did you come from :D ? Take a look at the number of bills actually voted on in the senate over the last few years. Harry Reid buried most bills (from both Republicans and Democrats) and the president only had to veto two bills in his two terms of office.
     

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