Video IPOD - How soon

Discussion in 'Event Archives' started by bridonohue, Jan 10, 2007.

  1. bridonohue macrumors newbie

    Jan 11, 2006
    It would seem that all the technology exists for the video ipod in the iphone, just strip out the phone functions, wi-fi, and os x, add a 100g hard drive and you have it. seems like the major tech hurdles have been figured out (except maybe battery) so is this possible for "and another thing" next month?
  2. SwiftLives macrumors 65816


    Dec 7, 2001
    Charleston, SC
    I doubt we're going to see just a widescreen video iPod. My theory is that in about 2 years, the iPhone will replace the iPod as components come down in price (and the exclusivity between Apple and Cingular expires). Remember the 60GB iPod Photo originally sold for $599.
  3. dernhelm macrumors 68000


    May 20, 2002
    middle earth
    Ding! This I would buy. But there may be "other issues". Part of the contract with Cingular's exclusivity agreement may be to not move any of the compelling features to their iPod line for some period of time. I hope not, but it is possible.
  4. tfh1013 macrumors member

    Jan 17, 2005
    Somewhere, Overthere
    There is no way for Apple to do this, because the iPhone is sold with a contract to Cingular. I think that we will inevitably see an iPod with widescreen video.
  5. atszyman macrumors 68020


    Sep 16, 2003
    The Dallas 'burbs
    They have 6 months until the US iPhone release so they could easily do a video iPod (similar in size to the iPhone) anytime between now and June and get the innovations to everyone while the iPhone comes down in price and hopefully eases carrier restrictions.
  6. hamholio macrumors member

    Jun 22, 2006
    I doubt it will happen. The massive bank from 2 years of Cingular Service is too much. They know that we would all buy a $350 "video ipod" right now, because we want it, but then that knocks the incentive to pony up for the iphone down 1/3.
  7. backtothefuture macrumors member

    Jan 8, 2007
    Does anyone think it possible that the new true video iPod could be flash based? This would be fantastic...and maybe thats why they are holding out. Or thats what I will tell myself.
  8. lord patton macrumors 65816

    lord patton

    Jun 6, 2005
    Certainly it's a question of when, not if.

    I'd bet a lot of money that the widescreen, multi-touch video iPod will come out before the '07 holiday season.

    I doubt it would debut before the iPhone ships. There will be supply constraints, worries about cannabalizing iPhone sales, and perhaps an agreement with Cingular not to let the tech out sans-contract (although I doubt this—Apple seems to be the strong hand in these partnerships).

    Of course, we don't know how much of the multi-touch GUI depends on the Intel processor and the OS X.

    It may be that an hard drive based unsubsidized video iPod—everything but the wifi, bluetooth, and cell phone—would still retail for $500, possibly $400.

    And when you get down to it, keeping the 2 MP camera and some kind of wireless protocol would be advantageous.

    So who knows? 20 months from now, in time for holiday '08, I bet this tech will have been incorporated down into iPods, up into portable Macs, and possibly a multi-touch tablet.
  9. atszyman macrumors 68020


    Sep 16, 2003
    The Dallas 'burbs
    I don't know, if they remove the phone and WiFi (keep BlueTooth), you have a true video iPod with wireless syncing and not phone or internet applications. I think that the additional phone/net apps would cause a lot of people to wait and get the phone, especially if the prices are similar. If the iPhone were capable of doing GPS I'd be really tempted to combine a set of 3 devices into one where without the phone I'd probably not jump as quickly.
  10. feelthefire macrumors 6502a

    Jun 13, 2006
    It's under multiyear contract with cingular, so the price won't be coming down and the carrier restrictions definitely won't be easing until that multiyear deal is over. My guess is it's probably a 2 year exclusivity deal.
  11. atszyman macrumors 68020


    Sep 16, 2003
    The Dallas 'burbs
    Carrier restrictions won't ease until the deal is over that's certain, but prices could easily drop substantially in that time.

    iPods seem to drop in price every year so why wouldn't the phone do the same?
  12. bridonohue thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jan 11, 2006
    i guess soon

    i would guess sooner rather than later. i think the competition with the iphone is not a huge issue since it is really two different audiences. i want a iphone right now, but i will not get one. The initial cost is not what keeps me from one, it is the cost to own. after paying $600 for the phone, cingular will cost at least $60 a month for voice and data, so the phone would cost about $2,040 for two years. this is fine if you can expense your phone bill (and i think it will be a status symbol item for businesses and especially political campaigns next year), but it is not a big consumer product. also the 8g flash drive makes it an impractical video device, most of our current playlists couldn't fit on the phone. cingular has an exclusive on the cell service, not the technology. the two products wouldn't compete because they are for 2 different groups of people. also, if apple really wants to get people to buy an appletv they need to give them incentives to download more movies, and an video ipod would spur sales.
  13. failsafe1 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 21, 2003
    I did not think we would see a phone and I was wrong. Now that we have the iPhone I would venture a guess this is the future of the iPod? I think we are looking at the rumored video iPod or a very close approximation. I can't see going back to something that would not continue to push converging technologies into one package.
  14. bridonohue thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jan 11, 2006
    good point
  15. bbydon macrumors 6502a

    May 18, 2005
    my guess is october....just in time for christmas.
    and the won't disturb the iphone launch
  16. LethalWolfe macrumors G3


    Jan 11, 2002
    Los Angeles
    I don't think a widescreen iPod would cannibalize iPhone sales anymore than regular iPods cannibalize iPod Nano sales.

  17. macsnjets macrumors newbie

    May 16, 2006
    Last Christmas I told my wife, don't get me anything, I'll wait for Macworld SF and get a widescreen iPod, then again this Christmas I had the same idea. I had my Apple gift cards waiting in hand and then BAM, no Widescreen iPod again. How much longer can one wait ? If the iPhone had larger storage then maybe I'd go for it. Right now I just don't know. Uggghhhh...
  18. TimV macrumors member

    May 15, 2005
    I also think a widescreen video iPod is a possibilty but not until the end of this year, well after the iPhone has been out.

    Also, I wouldn't count on it having any of the extra features that the iPhone has, either (Camera, Bluetooth, WiFi, Internet, E-mail, etc.). There has to be a distinct difference between the iPod and the iPhone.

    If it does come out, I would expect it to have only the iPod functionality from the iPhone (Music, Movies, Pictures, Coverflow) along with the widscreen display, Multi-Touch UI and ~80 GB HDD (this would actually be a pretty cool device!)

    OTOH, they may decide not to release something like this at all, thinking it may take business away from their iPhone. They may focus strictly on continuing development on the iPhone as their new de-facto handheld device. I could see this happening just as easily.

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