Voters are shifting to Democrats, flashing a warning for Republicans

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  1. iBlazed macrumors 68000

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    To me, this doesn't mean America is moving to the left. We've went so far to the right in recent years that we have a lot of going left to do before reaching a healthy center. It also seems that by pandering to the most extreme fringes of their base, Republicans traded long term integrity for short term success and have effectively shot themselves in the foot. The Democrats are not liberals, the Democrats are the moderates, the Republicans are now far-right bordering fascist. Seems like the voters are starting to catch on.

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    I think it is the GOP all the hate and ignorance and woman hating and the religious control is really hurting them. They just get more and more extreme and religious extremes are chasing people out of the church.
     
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    Honestly to me the GOP right now is the party of anger, fear, selfishness, and tragically romanticised nostalgia for a past that never was. I am an independent, but right now the GOP has too many candidates that are mean-spirited cusses for me to even consider them for my vote. Maybe if they prune away some of their more extreme candidates during the primaries I would reconsider.
     
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    I doubt pruning would work they would just sucker they need sprayed with roundup.
     
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    Flashing what warning? Nobody seriously believes Hillary will lose in '16.
     
  6. iBlazed thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Speak for yourself.
     
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    Yeah, because who's running against her capable of winning? Hillary is a fairly hardcore pro-corporate status quo establishment candidate who makes the occasional concession to the middle left for publicity purposes. 20 years ago, she probably would've been running on a hard Republican platform.

    But today, relative to her competition, she's practically a shining beacon of levelheaded moderation.

    For some reason, this doesn't scare the absolute **** out of us. It should. But it doesn't.
     
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    I fear what we're seeing are right wingers who are planning on voting in the Democratic primary to try and remove Hillary from contention.
     
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    What about the millions of Democrats trying to remove Hillary from contention?
     
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    That would be pretty dumb on their part. The other candidate would be Sanders. If Sanders won the presidency, it would be their worst nightmare. They will find themselves wishing Hillary Clinton won. Then again, they're not known for their smarts, so you might be on to something.
     
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    Hillary is the devil. She's a corporate fascist wearing a blue dress.

    Bernie is our only hope.
     
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    Fascist is a bit strong; however, she is a corporatist to the core. I mean, consider Wal-Mart--the left's all-time bête noire--and the fact Hillary sat on their board of directors for six years. Not to mention she voted for to invade Iraq, pro-NAFTA, yada yada yada.

    And now she is the only choice Democrats have. Talk about Kafkaesque.
     
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    clinton and bush should be kicked out. should be bernie sanders vs rand paul
     
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    Ms.Clinton is not a Democrat nor a Liberal she's a Republican just not a neo-conservative I won't be voting for her.
     
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    That would be an actual choice.

    Look at Joe Biden's numbers and he's not even running (yet.) I bet he worries Hillary more than Bernie.
     
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    Stop telling them in advance!! Let them find out at the polls. :p
     
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    Yes, but not even Democrats will vote for Sanders. So no matter who the Republican candidate winds up being, he could easily beat Sanders.
     
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    I'm not 100% sure about that...
     
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    I still think the Democrats are looking for much younger leadership in the Democratic Party. That's why it think they are looking the Castro brothers (Joaquin and Julian) from Texas or Gavin Newsom from California.

    Remember, the Republican field for President so far has several candidates far younger than Hillary Clinton: Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, and Scott Walker specifically. Even Sarah Palin--if she decides to run--is still vastly younger than Hillary Clinton.

    We forget in 2007, when Barack Obama announced his campaign, at the time everyone thought Hillary had the 2008 nomination "sewn up." But Obama--being only 48 at the time of the 2008 election--became immensely popular among younger voters. That's something the Democrats have to consider in the near future, in my opinion.
     
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    I'm not sure about the neocon part but I agree with the rest of your post.
     
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    Just pick a liberal who can win or I don't want to hear the lamenting when a Cruz or Trump gets in there, not that I think either one of those have a chance. Ok, maybe you'll lament Jeb. The problem with all GOP candidates is that to win, they will be beholding to the right wing crazies.
     
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    I don't think people realize yet how crucial 2016 is. The next president could significantly alter the make up of the Supreme Court for decades to come. Christie, who has no chance anyway, just said that he would nominate justices who would have ruled the opposite way in Obergefell and King v Burwell.
     
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    Great point. The motto for the next Presidential election- Remember the Supreme Court!
     

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