Walmart Collects Food for Needy Walmart Employees for Thanksgiving

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  1. rdowns macrumors Penryn

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    Sad that the food drive is for their workers, not a charity. No irony in that many of these needy employees will have to work on Thanksgiving.


    http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2013/11/is_walmarts_request_of_associa.html#incart_river
     
  2. astrorider macrumors 6502

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    So the food bins are a prop placed by employees about to strike for higher wages?
     
  3. zioxide macrumors 603

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    It's so they can cook the workers Thanksgiving dinner when they force them to give up their holidays to come to work for 8 bucks an hour, right?
     
  4. roadbloc macrumors G3

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    How very generous of them. :rolleyes:

    But still, I guess its better than nothing.
     
  5. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    The title of the thread is misleading, this was an employee only area, about the same as buying a turkey for your neighbor when you know their wife lost her job.

    You should not expect to support a family working as a cashier at WalMart, that's not realistic.
     
  6. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    The title is not misleading. If it was just for a certain employee or two who had some misfortune or the area was hit with a tragedy like a hurricane, they would have specified that. But it's obvious Walmart knows many of their employees are struggling just to make ends meet on the wages they get.

    I agree you shouldn't expect an amazing salary and perks with some jobs. But the employees feel their responsibilities and contribution are worth more than what they are getting now. And as someone who has worked in retail before, I agree with them.
     
  7. lannister80 macrumors 6502

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    No, but it should be.
     
  8. skottichan macrumors 6502a

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    Why isn't it realistic. When my grandparents were children, and when my parents were kids, you had people living on the income from working at a grocery store. Working poverty has exploded in my lifetime.

    For the life of me, I cannot understand how giving people a living wage is such a sin to some people. It helps get people off welfare services, and would not realistically increase prices (most economists estimate up to a 3% increase in worst case scenarios).
     
  9. zioxide macrumors 603

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    And as long as that's the case, we should expect the number of people and families on public assistance programs to continue to skyrocket.
     
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    This. In the 50's and 60's, it was quite easy for one person to be the breadwinner of the family working a relatively menial, low skill job. Now, it's a practical necessity that everyone in a family has to work solid jobs to keep themselves solvent. A comfortable middle management office position isn't enough to support a family of three by itself.

    The simple fact is that entire families work to keep their heads above water. In not nearly as rare as it should be situations, some people have to work two jobs to keep from going under. Yet if anyone says anything, people start throwing out words like "lazy", "entitled", "socialist", and "class warfare" as pavlovian blanket statements.

    It's funny how you see the far right pining for the days of old. When the husband went to the factor/office, while the wife stayed home to keep house and raise the children. Family values, they say. Utmost importance. Things used to be better then when things were the way I liked. Kids respected their elders because blah blah blah. Yeah. It'd be nice, wouldn't it? A society so stable and well managed, only one member of a family has to work to earn a comfortable living wage. Shame these same people who continually go on about this do everything they can to keep it from happening by cutting wages, social services, and any programs that could possibly boost a hard working middle class family to bigger, better, more financially secure things.

    The only choice most families have these days is for both parents to work, or live in poverty.
     
  11. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    the sad part is it is the conservative Christians that really want this.
    They don't seem to follow Jesus's commands. They can't have welfare but they can't have a living wage either. they are lazy and don't work.
     
  12. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    It seems like the powers that be in America are trying to get rid of the working middle class. The American Dream has changed.
     
  13. skottichan macrumors 6502a

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    I'm not sure if there really was any American Dream™ other than "I got mine, **** everyone else", and that dream is alive and well.
     
  14. Sydde macrumors 68020

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    Americans are to busy for sleeping, much less dreams. Even the ones out of work: after all, surely there is someone on the internet who is wrong.
     
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    Yup. It's not dead, but it's certainly not available to everyone anymore.
     
  16. Merkava_4 macrumors 6502a

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    That's because most people on this forum are either educated college students or alumni who look down their noses at the working poor. To them, the working poor are lazy and deserve the miserable life they live. "You want a better living wage? Go to school and bang your head against the books like I do; otherwise, quit bitching."
     
  17. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    I am not sure that most people here are insensitive or antagonist toward the poor. I'm waaay old (>50) and I stocked shelves, made doughnuts (over 100,000 of them), and tended bar to make money for my university education. Indeed, I have worked continuously since I was 12 at one thing or another. The difference between then and now is that I had a reasonable expectation that once educated I would get a good job. I look at young people now who've worked their butts off in education but cannot find a job. Their despair is palpable.
     
  18. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Your dad worked at a grocery store to support your mother and you who didn't work? :confused: doubt it.

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    Or just don't have a kid until you can support one. Weird concept.
     
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    Or once you have a job and decide to have kids, just never get fired…or sick…or injured…or have your home unexpectedly depreciate in value…or…

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  20. skottichan macrumors 6502a

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    You either can't comprehend the english language, or you're choosing to be pedantic, and I'm guessing it's the latter.

    I'm saying when my parents were kids. You know, back in the 50's - 60's, when it was realistic for the husband to work and the wife to stay at home. You know, that idealistic period that the Right that wants to go running back to. When white men were completely in control, women and Coloreds knew their place, and gays were just horror stories you told your kids about.

    I am an 80's baby, I grew up in government housing, and watched my mom work the midnight shift, cleaning ****, at a nursing home.

    Actually, I'm talking more here in Rural Ohio, where I'm watching the just above Working Poverty people go on about the evils of the Working Poor. It's surreal seeing these people attacking things like Food Stamps, WIC, and Welfare, and scream about how horrible it is that big corporations and the rich have to pay so much in taxes. Rural Ohio has bought the GOP's "eat the poor" mantra hook, line and sinker.
     
  21. rhett7660 macrumors G4

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    Actually I could see this happening, say in the 70-80's. Most cashiers were making $17-30 dollars an hour. Most butchers were doing the same if not more. I highly doubt we are talking about "baggers and cart pushers". But there were plenty of jobs within the grocery store business that made pretty good money.
     
  22. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    I'm beginning to think that ZA truly is a Zombie, either that or he grew up on some rush Limbaugh/ Ann coulter commune.

    It was very easy to make a living wage working retail. Back in 1983, I was making $7.50 an hr working as a cashier in a drugstore. It was also a respectable job, not one demonized by the likes of ZA and the tea party. It wasn't that long ago that ZA thought it was shameful that Trader Joes cashiers make around 40k a year. He wanted to tell them that an $8 billion per year company should be ashamed that it pays it's employees a good wage.

    Why is it that so many successful retail jobs exist yet there are also so many Walmart types that basically want their employees to grovel like pigs.
     
  23. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Butchering is a skilled trade, cashier is not. Although I did not work in the 70s-80s so I can't attest to what the wages were.

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    Never listed to rush or ann. Wouldn't recognize any of their work.

    I can't imagine working as a cashier and thinking it was a respectable job. Maybe something to get by and pay the bills.

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    Many people would still be able to live off of a single income if they prioritized for it. The problem is that consumerism is what drives the economy now so we need to keep buying or the whole thing collapses, we need a house on a lot with a car in both sides of the garage. I could be the sole bread winner if I chose and adjusted the budgets a bit. It wouldn't be optimal, but it would be possible.
     
  24. yg17 macrumors G5

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    You must be a joy for retail employees to deal with when you go shopping if this is what you think of them :rolleyes:
     
  25. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    I am just as nice as the next person in line. I don't have to think that your job is respectable to be polite. When your kid doesn't want to have you come to job day though, don't blame me.
     

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