WARNING: Do not upgrade to Mojave if you have any non-retina screens!

Discussion in 'macOS Mojave (10.14)' started by ugh, Sep 25, 2018.

  1. ugh macrumors member

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    The subpixel font rendering engine that used to produce beautiful fonts on macOS is gone! There are a few "fixes" floating around here, they don't bring the old engine back and the results are not acceptable in my opinion. Let me save you the 2 day restore process I am in the middle of downgrading to High Sierra.
     
  2. keysofanxiety macrumors G3

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    Wish I read this before upgrading yesterday. Fonts look horrible on my 15” 2012.

    Ah well.
     
  3. martin2345uk macrumors 6502

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    I though the fonts on my Air looked a bit different but couldn’t quite place why. Doesn’t look bad to me, just different.
     
  4. TC!! macrumors newbie

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  5. ugh thread starter macrumors member

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  7. 212rikanmofo macrumors 65816

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    I'm using 10.14.1 on my Late 2013 iMac non-retina. Why did Apple remove subpixel anti-aliasing? Why didn't they just leave it alone and include it as an option for those with non-retina screens. Makes no sense at all.
     
  8. NastyNatex, Sep 25, 2018
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    NastyNatex macrumors newbie

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    Don't forget. Apple deal with Microsoft also ran out for using the patent technology for the fonts.

    Apple and Microsoft signed a patent cross-licensing agreement in 1997, back when Microsoft was so dominant they were under anti-trust investigation from the US government, and Apple was a breath away from bankruptcy.

    http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1292505/584.pdf

    Microsoft invented sub-pixel antialiasing and have been awarded multiple patents for the technology:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClearType#Patents

    The deal expired in 2017.
     
  9. dumastudetto macrumors 68030

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    Who doesn't have a retina Mac at this point? Everyone must, and if you don't really you must upgrade now. There's no excuse.
     
  10. 212rikanmofo macrumors 65816

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    Stupid reasoning, not everyone can afford to.
     
  11. Cougarcat macrumors 604

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    People with multiple displays don’t necessarily have all-Retina screens.
     
  12. Hater Suspended

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    Yeah I noticed it on my non-Retina, don't really care all that much to be honest.

    Here's an excuse: I need a Pro laptop that's actually a Pro laptop, not some glued together POS I can't even run twin HDD's in
     
  13. rafark, Sep 25, 2018
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    Oh, I must've missed it, when did they start giving them away for free?
     
  14. drlunanerd macrumors 68000

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    It does work.
     
  15. DakotaGuy macrumors 68040

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    There’s also no excuse for Apple releasing an OS upgrade that doesn’t work well (at least without a workaround) on non-Retina models when they are still selling them as new machines. Both the MacBook Air and base iMac are still non-Retina. That’s pretty sloppy especially for a company that prides itself in the motto “It just works!”
     
  16. NastyNatex macrumors newbie

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    I think a lot of it has to do with the licensing deal expired with Microsoft.
     
  17. DakotaGuy macrumors 68040

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    Then they should have discontinued any non-Retina models the day they launched Mojave or found a way to temporarily extend the agreement.
     
  18. lec0rsaire macrumors 65816

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    Jeez that looks bad. It reminds me of my iPad 2 on iOS 7 when they got rid of the shadows.
     
  19. alien3dx macrumors 6502a

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    the font more whiter and seem to bright .The first time i used imac also issue with brightnes..Dono why imac a bit eye strain.
     
  20. mjohnson1212 macrumors member

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    Thanks for the post. Lots of people using non "retina" external monitors even if their Mac has a Retina display.
     
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    I'm finding that turning off 'Use font smoothing when available' in system preferences / general, seems to improve things.
     
  23. mikecwest macrumors 6502a

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    Ok, you said it, no excuses: You can PayPal me the $3000 or so, to buy a new a MBP with 16GB ram, and 1TB SSD to replace my early 2011 MBP the has been upgraded 16GB Ram 1TB SSD and upgraded airport card to support airdrop?

    The $3000 would be fine, as I can afford to pay the taxes on my own.
     
  24. alien3dx macrumors 6502a

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    hah lol man ... not just my eye strain , my heart also..o_O
     

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